[Coco] Cross Post from the Facebook Page about the RGB2VGA Board

Steve Batson steve_batson at yahoo.com
Sat Jul 11 16:50:33 EDT 2015


Cool! Now when you get the resistors changed out, you will be very happy with the results I'm betting. 

I had the same issue finding all the resistor values locally and have had to place several orders. I still have some coming that I need. Been stocking up so I don't have to wait when working on future projects.

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> On Jul 10, 2015, at 10:14 PM, John B <trymyz at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Ok.  I figured out what the issue was with the .jic.  I was using the .jic
>> that some one one the mailing list created.  I got them mixed up.  When I
>> used Luis' .jic everything works fine.
>> 
>> On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 12:53 AM, John B <trymyz at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks Steve.  Yeah something isnt right when I program the .jic vs .sof.
>>> Don't get me wrong it works, but it just doesnt show the test pattern.  I
>>> will mess with it some more.
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 12:43 AM, Steve Batson <
>>> steve at batsonphotography.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> John,
>>>> 
>>>> I had to copy everything from Luis' code I downloaded to a folder that
>>>> the software used and then use it to program the board. I don't recall the
>>>> steps, but it did work the first time I got my convert hard plugged in. And
>>>> yes, when the CoCo is off, it displays a default test pattern built in to
>>>> the FPGA software.  When I turn the CoCo on, it goes to the CoCo screen.
>>>> Something doesn't sound right with what you are seeing though. You may have
>>>> to play with getting the FPGA programmed, those don't have anything to do
>>>> with the card.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Jul 10, 2015, at 9:28 PM, John B <trymyz at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Interesting.  When I used the .jic from Github I would no longer get the
>>>>> test pattern when the CoCo was off so I just compiled my own.  Now it
>>>>> behaves just like the .sof..  The .jic from github would just display a
>>>>> previous CoCo image (somewhat garbled) when the power was off.  Do you
>>>>> experience the same thing when the CoCo is off and the monitor is on?
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sat, Jul 11, 2015 at 12:23 AM, Steve Batson <
>>>> steve at batsonphotography.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I used the .JIC file. Roger had issues with compiling the code and Luis
>>>>>> said it wasn't the same version and that the compiled version had some
>>>>>> fixes.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jul 10, 2015, at 7:59 PM, John B <trymyz at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Steve,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I still have the recommended resistor values from Luis' design.
>>>>>>> Unfortunately no one locally has the values you recommended so I am
>>>>>> placing
>>>>>>> my DigiKey order tonight.  I will just create another board since I
>>>> have
>>>>>> 2
>>>>>>> spares.  Then I can really compare the two.  I have taken care of
>>>>>>> recommendations 1-3.  I will pull that wire tonight.  Also, did you
>>>> use
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> .sof and/or .jic from Luis' Github page?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 10:39 PM, Steve Batson <
>>>>>> steve at batsonphotography.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> John,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Have you changed the resistors yet, or are you using the resistors
>>>>>>>> recommended for the design? I was seeing jitter, where the entire
>>>> screen
>>>>>>>> would jerk and occasional waves going through it mostly noticeable on
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> edges. Also, it didn't seem consistent, sometimes it was worse than
>>>>>> others.
>>>>>>>> Based on what Roger had found, it sounded like there were a number of
>>>>>>>> issues being caused by the original resistor values. Voltage Levels
>>>> were
>>>>>>>> not what they should be. Also there was issues with the HSYNC and
>>>> VSYNC
>>>>>>>> again caused by original resistor values. Luis and posted on the FB
>>>>>> page a
>>>>>>>> response to one of my questions that some CoCo's are noisier than
>>>> others
>>>>>>>> and this may very well be true, but I'd guess symptoms could be
>>>> worse on
>>>>>>>> some systems then others which could be the combination of the CoCo
>>>> and
>>>>>>>> Monitor. From discussions with Roger about this and how he fixed it,
>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>> going to go out on a limb here and suggest that with his suggested
>>>>>> resistor
>>>>>>>> values, the video will most likely be crisp, clean and jitter free on
>>>>>> most
>>>>>>>> any CoCo and VGA monitor unless they have problems of their own.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> It was a bit of a pain in the butt pulling a bunch of resistors out
>>>> and
>>>>>>>> replacing them with Rogers suggested values, but I'd highly recommend
>>>>>> it if
>>>>>>>> you haven't done so already. It was totally worth it! If you have
>>>>>> already
>>>>>>>> replaced the resistors with the new values and are still having
>>>> issues,
>>>>>> I'd
>>>>>>>> suggest the following:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 1) Inspect your board and make sure you have no possible shorts.
>>>> Clean
>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> real good with alcohol or other good electronic board cleaner and
>>>>>>>> thoroughly dry.
>>>>>>>> 2) Check all the cables including power going to the board and make
>>>> sure
>>>>>>>> all is well
>>>>>>>> 3) Make sure the ribbon cable isn't right next to a transformer
>>>>>> including
>>>>>>>> the CoCo power power supply (thought I am not having issues even if
>>>> set
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> board right on top of the CoCo above the transformer). This probably
>>>> is
>>>>>> NOT
>>>>>>>> an issue.
>>>>>>>> 4) Remove wire I mentioned that was a ground fix.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Anyway, let me know if you have changed the resistors yet or not. I'm
>>>>>> very
>>>>>>>> curious to see where you are at.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Jul 10, 2015, at 7:18 PM, John B <trymyz at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Steve,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I tested the board out.  The display comes out fine, colors display
>>>>>>>>> properly, etc.  However, the edge of any line looks slightly wavy.
>>>>>>>> Hardly
>>>>>>>>> noticeable.  This is more evident with graphics opposed to text.  Of
>>>>>>>> course
>>>>>>>>> I played with the trim pot, but that only helped so much.  Is this
>>>> what
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>> experienced before u swapped the resistors?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 11:36 AM, Steve Batson <
>>>>>>>> steve at batsonphotography.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> No problem, Roger deserves the credit all this work. I just
>>>> duplicated
>>>>>>>>>> what he did and putting info here hoping it's helpful.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> I had no stock of resistors and trying to find just a few either
>>>>>> wasn't
>>>>>>>>>> economical or easy. Needless to say, I've got a pretty good stock
>>>> now!
>>>>>>>>>> :D
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you very much Steve. I should be able to
>>>>>>>>>> test it out today. I will
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> report back either way. I might put my DigiKey order in anyway.
>>>> You
>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> never have too many resistors :)
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 9:07 AM, Steve Batson
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> <steve at batsonphotography.com>
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> John,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> No, the resistor from R7 to Pos 8 on the GPIO1 connector is what
>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> referred to as Rx, that resistor should be 1.8K. The drawing on
>>>>>>>>>> Luis'
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> site
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> shows a jumper wire to fix a ground issue. If that jumper is in
>>>>>>>>>> place
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> after
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> all the resistors in place, you will most likely have Jitter.
>>>>>>>>>> There
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> be no Jumper wires installed. The jumper Luis refers to is
>>>>>>>>>> between R21
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> R18. I'd only install that if Jitter is present with all the
>>>>>>>>>> resistor
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> changes. If necessary, try it both ways, but on Roger and my
>>>>>>>>>> board it
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> wasn't necessary. All of these changes were Roger's findings. I
>>>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> duplicated his setup and it's awesome!
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 9, 2015, at 10:22 PM, John B <trymyz at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I will be testing it tomorrow. Thank you for the new
>>>>>>>>>> values.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hopefully
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything will work as intended. You refer to the
>>>>>>>>>> additional wires
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> being needed. Is this the resistor from R7 to Position 8 on
>>>>>>>>>> GPIO1 and
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wire between R18 and R21?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Jul 10, 2015 at 12:56 AM, Steve Batson <
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> steve at batsonphotography.com>
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, this is Luis' RGB2VGA board used with the DENano
>>>>>>>>>> FPGA.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since you have just finished it, I'd test it out first
>>>>>>>>>> to see if you
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any jitter or other problems. However Roger did a lot
>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> investigation
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> found these values produce voltages in line with the VGA
>>>>>>>>>> Standard and
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> help the board properly sync from the CoCo output. I
>>>>>>>>>> don't have all
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> technical details, I just know it worked for Roger and
>>>>>>>>>> works for me.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> These are what Roger came up with and I simply
>>>>>>>>>> duplicated what he
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> found.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, the Variable resistor, he recommended a 10K Multi
>>>>>>>>>> Turn for
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> finer
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> control when tuning for the best appearance. Another
>>>>>>>>>> thing to know is
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there are some additional wires recommended but they
>>>>>>>>>> were not needed
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Roger's or my case and jitter did not go away until
>>>>>>>>>> removed.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Top Left
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 82 Ohms - Grey-Red-Black-Gold-Brown
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> R22
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> R23
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> R25
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * * * Bottom Left
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.2K Brown-Red-Black-Brown-Brown
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> R18
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> R19
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> R20
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> R21
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * * * Top Right 10
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> R9 47
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> R10 47
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 390 ohms
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> R1
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> R4
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> R7
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 820 ohms
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> R2
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> R5
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> R8
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1.8K ohms
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> R3
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> R6
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rx (this is the resistor soldered to R7 and the GPIO1
>>>>>>>>>> Connector)
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * * * Bottom Right
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2K Red-Black-Red-Gold
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> R17
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> R14
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> R12
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> R11
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1K Brown-Black-black-Brown-Brown
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> R15
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> R16
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 9, 2015, at 9:31 PM, John B
>>>>>>>>>> <trymyz at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Steve,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you referring to Luis' RGB2VGA board? The reason
>>>>>>>>>> I ask is I
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> literally
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (15 min ago) just finished assmebling my board. I
>>>>>>>>>> used the
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> resistors
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> he
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> outlined on his page under the
>>>>>>>>>> "Modifications" section.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://sites.google.com/site/tandycocoloco/rgb2vga
>>>>>>>>>> Are those the
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> resistors that produced the video jitter? If so, can
>>>>>>>>>> you give us
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> values that fixed the issue?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 11:45 PM, Steve Batson
>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> steve at batsonphotography.com>
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I figured I'd post the following here too. Some
>>>>>>>>>> discussion occurred
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> FB page, but a lot of discussion was done
>>>>>>>>>> between Roger and Myself
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> email
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as Roger made several discoveries that
>>>>>>>>>> stabilized some very
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> annoying
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jitter
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problems with video.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> RGB2VGA Stabilized!
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> First thanks to Felipe for a very cool Solution
>>>>>>>>>> to bring the CoCo3
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> video
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to Modern VGA Monitors. Originally, I missed a
>>>>>>>>>> few resistors that I
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> somehow
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thought were optional and Felipe straightened me
>>>>>>>>>> out on those.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Then I was getting Jitter just like Roger was
>>>>>>>>>> experiencing. I had
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> several
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> email discussions with Roger as he was doing
>>>>>>>>>> some research and
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> experimenting based on what he found about the
>>>>>>>>>> VGA standards and
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> found
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> changing some resistor values stabilized the
>>>>>>>>>> output from his board.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pretty much duplicated Roger's resistor values
>>>>>>>>>> on my board with the
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exception of 4 that I'm waiting to come in, but
>>>>>>>>>> mine is crisp and
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jitter is
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gone. I will most likely change those 4
>>>>>>>>>> resistors when the parts
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> come
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unless it doesn't make sense.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Anyway, Finally fantastic output on my VGA
>>>>>>>>>> monitor. Very Cool!!!
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Very Big thanks to Roger!!!
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
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