[Coco] Boot Dependacy List question...

Gene Heskett gheskett at wdtv.com
Sat Nov 8 22:56:05 EST 2014


On Saturday 08 November 2014 22:06:27 Bill Pierce via Coco did opine
And Gene did reply:
> Gene, check 4th from the bottom... :-)
> 
Yeah, I must be getting blind in my dotage. I sure missed it. :(
20 lashes with a wet noodle?
 
> Bill Pierce
> "Today is a good day... I woke up" - Ritchie Havens
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gene Heskett <gheskett at wdtv.com>
> To: coco <coco at maltedmedia.com>
> Sent: Sat, Nov 8, 2014 8:49 pm
> Subject: Re: [Coco] Boot Dependacy List question...
> 
> 
> On Saturday 08 November 2014 17:45:52 Bill Pierce via Coco did opine
> 
> And Gene did reply:
> > Ok, in trying to complete my boot dependency tree, I've run across a
> > couple of drivers I'm not sure of... I do not have the hardware, so I
> > do not know their dependencies.
> > llide.dr
> > lltc3.dr
> > rbsuper.dr
> > 
> > 
> > the only descriptors listed for these are:
> > dds0_tc3.dd
> > s0_tc3.dd
> > s1_tc3.dd
> > s2_tc3.dd
> > s3_tc3.dd
> > s4_tc3.dd
> > s5_tc3.dd
> > s6_tc3.dd
> > sh_tc3.dd
> > ddi0_ide.dd
> > i0_ide.dd
> > i1_ide.dd
> > ih_ide.dd
> 
> The first two are the "adapter" modules that make rbsuper.dr compatible
> and usable with either the Super-ide or I believe the GCC ide
> interface, or the TC^3 scsi controller that Mark sells. the lltc3.dr
> may also apply to some of the other scsi controllers sold over the
> years, but not to an SC-II+4n1 that I know of. That one (TC^3) is
> great, you can hang all the 1Gb seagate Hawk scsi-II drives on it that
> you can round up these days.  I had 2 from an older miggy that are
> happily spinning on my coco right now.
> 
> IOW if the user has an ide drive controller, he should select the
> llide.dr and rbsuper.dr.
> 
> If he has a scsi interface like the TC^3, the you should select
> lltc3.dr and rbsuper.dr.
> 
> This lltc3.dr may also work with the RGB scsi interface, but I'll let
> Robert Gault confirm/deny that as I do not have one of those.
> 
> > What I need to know, is which ones go with which?
> > I'm pretty sure ix_ide.dd goes with llide.dr and sx_tc3.dd goes with
> > lltc3.dr, but what goes with rbsuper.dr?
> 
> Either of the ll* drivers that suits his hardware.  The sh_tc3.dd is a
> bit special as you can configure it with dmode to point at any of the
> 256 virtual drives that HDBDOS gives you, with full
> read-write-format-boot from it access.  On a really big (for the coco)
> hard drive, like the 1Gb's I use, I could setup another 10 or 11 of
> these 256 vdisk banks beyond the 500 megs assigned for os9 as each
> "bank" is just over 80 megabytes. One could do it, but I've had no
> urge to...  Shortage of round tuits I guess.
> 
> HOWEVER!!!!  Before formatting /sh when running nitros9, read the super
> descriptor docs very very, did I mention VERY CAREFULLY as there is a 1
> bit flag in one of the dmode accessible descriptor variables that tells
> format when it is to use the values specified in the sh_tc3.dd
> descriptor, or to query the drive for its capacity.  And if its not
> set correctly in the descriptor, it will very nonchalantly format the
> whole drive, which is NOT of course what you intended.  See the docs
> PLEASE.  Download the latest version from cloud9north.com/support,
> print it and stick it in the cubby hole next to your monitor for
> instant reference.  Oh, and READ it too. ;-)
> 
> Its possible that the ih_ide.dd could be used in a manner similar to
> sh_tc3.dd.  Untested by me.
> 
> Missing from your list I see, is a ddi0_ide.dd which gives the ide user
> a /dd drive which could be either the master or the slave drive on the
> controller respectively.  Master or slave likely controllable by a
> dmode setting. read the docs.  Then read them 3 or 4 more times.  They
> are concise and many times interdependent.
> 
> We now also have:
> 
> ddsd0_cocosdc.dd
> sd0_cocosdc.dd
> sd1_cocosdc.dd
> 
> which will in turn need
> 
> llcocosdc.dr
> 
> as an extension to rbsuper.dr for access to the cocosdc.  I think, I
> hear there are problems with it yet.
> 
> > Bill Pierce
> > "Today is a good day... I woke up" - Ritchie Havens
> > 
> > 
> > My Music from the Tandy/Radio Shack Color Computer 2 & 3
> > https://sites.google.com/site/dabarnstudio/
> > Co-Webmaster of The TRS-80 Color Computer Archive
> > http://www.colorcomputerarchive.com/
> > Co-Contributor, Co-Editor for CocoPedia
> > http://www.cocopedia.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
> > E-Mail: ooogalapasooo at aol.com
> 
> Cheers, Gene Heskett


Cheers, Gene Heskett
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