[Coco] HDBDOS (IDE) & MESS (Coco2)

Luis Antoniosi (CoCoDemus) retrocanada76 at gmail.com
Wed Mar 12 10:54:45 EDT 2014


What do you mean by make your collections available on a CF ?

VCC works with a .vhd file. You still write and read from it. If you
want to transfer it to a real CF you need to use te Win32 Disk Image
or the dd linux command and transfer this .vhd direct to it in raw
mode. But VCC cannot access the CF directly.


On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 10:32 AM, Bill Pierce <ooogalapasooo at aol.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks Luis, Nice job by the way :-)
> Now to talk Ciaran into implementing this in XRoar for the Coco 1 & 2 :-)
>
> By using this interface in VCC, I should be able to make my VHD collections available on a CF image. Correct?
>
>
> Bill Pierce
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Luis Antoniosi (CoCoDemus) <retrocanada76 at gmail.com>
> To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts <coco at maltedmedia.com>
> Sent: Wed, Mar 12, 2014 10:21 am
> Subject: Re: [Coco] HDBDOS (IDE) & MESS (Coco2)
>
>
> Nope there is only one image, but multiple os-9 partitions. You press
> 1 to 6 to access them.
>
> There is also extra 100 virtual disks they are accessed by tampering
> the HDB-DOS offset. Just run PART2.BAS or MODPLAY.BAS
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 12, 2014 at 10:13 AM, Bill Pierce <ooogalapasooo at aol.com> wrote:
>>
>> Ok, since you've now ventured into Vcc, you're in my realm :-)
>> Just as an experiment due to all the traffic in this thread, I decided to give
> this a shot.
>> Loaded Vcc 1.4.3bFSTEST  (new version Aaron posted a few days ago, version
> should not really ,matter though Luis's default NOS9 on the image is for DW, so
> I used Vcc 1.4.3b w/becker and Dw4)
>>
>> MPI slots loaded as:
>> Slot 1 - ide.dll
>> Slot 2 - Orch90.dll
>> Slot 3 - harddrive.dll
>> Slot 4 - FD-502.dll
>>
>> in "Cartridge / FD-502 Config"
>> Uncheck "Clock at 0xFF50-51" (this is imperative, I missed this to start with
> and could get nothing)
>> Check "Disk Image / External Rom Image"
>> In bottom right corner, click "Browse" and mount Luis's "hdblba.rom"
>> Click "OK"
>>
>> Now in "Cartridge"
>> Clcik "IDE Config"
>> Make sure "Base Address 0xFF" is set to "50"
>> Check "Clock at 0xFF70"
>> Check "Clock is Read-Only"
>> Clcik "IDE Master" and mount the "GlenesideIDE.img"
>>
>> Now hit "F9" twice (cold start, once "off" twice "on")
>>
>> You should now boot up in Luis's HDBLBA Menu Screen.
>> Works for me.... I can run progrms in HDBDOS or boot to NitrOS9...
>>
>> My question would be;
>> Is there more than one vhd image on the CF image? If so, how do I access the
> other images. I have never used SuperIDE so I do not know the cmds.
>> Also, can you load a second CF image into the "IDE Slave" slot? And if so, how
> is it accessed?
>>
>>
>> Bill Pierce
>> "Today is a good day... I woke up" - Ritchie Havens
>>
>>
>> My Music from the Tandy/Radio Shack Color Computer 2 & 3
>> https://sites.google.com/site/dabarnstudio/
>> Co-Webmaster of The TRS-80 Color Computer Archive
>> http://www.colorcomputerarchive.com/
>> Co-Contributor, Co-Editor for CocoPedia
>> http://www.cocopedia.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
>> E-Mail: ooogalapasooo at aol.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mark McDougall <msmcdoug at iinet.net.au>
>> To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts <coco at maltedmedia.com>
>> Sent: Wed, Mar 12, 2014 9:28 am
>> Subject: Re: [Coco] HDBDOS (IDE) & MESS (Coco2)
>>
>>
>> On 12/03/2014 11:31 PM, Luis Antoniosi (CoCoDemus) wrote:
>>
>>> You should use either VCC (with superIDE)
>>
>> I can't find the menu that is supposed to be enabled via ide.dll.
>>
>> Using my HDBDOS rom image in the FD502 emulation doesn't work either
>> (guessing that's not supposed to work either).
>>
>> Why is it so hard to get a hard drive running under emulation? All these
>> emulator patches (aside from the HDBDOS virtual floppy offset of course)
>> really shouldn't be necessary; technically they're just hacks and do nothing
>> but cloud the issue. The CF images really should have a proper ATA header so
>> that IDE support can be added to the emulators. We need to look at IDE
>> support on other systems and borrow the format from them. The current
>> situation is untenable. What a mess! :(
>>
>> Regards,
>>
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