[Coco] Vcc 1.4.3b and DW4 Installation Guide

[Bill Pierce]

Richard, wpuld you be intersted in adding the Becker port to the Mess UI?  IF you are able to build the sources, I think the patch for the becker port is fairly simple, though needing updating to more recent builds. With the becker port support, Mess could access DriveWire4 and become even more useful. I would certainly try using Mess again if it had becker port support. It's the main reason I use Vcc in the first place.


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-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Goedeken <Richard at fascinationsoftware.com>
To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts <coco at maltedmedia.com>
Sent: Sat, Mar 8, 2014 12:26 pm
Subject: Re: [Coco] Vcc 1.4.3b and DW4 Installation Guide


>From my experience, MESS is more accurate at emulating the Coco 3, though Vcc
is more integrated and provides an experience that feels more like a real
Coco, and has nicer video output.  The big downsides to Vcc are that it is
only available for Windows and is closed source.

I have built MESS many times over the years for many different platforms.
Currently I'm running 0.150 on Linux.  It's not hard to compile.  I can give
you an OSX build if you want.  There are pre-built Win32 binaries available.

Richard

On 03/08/2014 08:18 AM, Bill Pierce wrote:
> 
> Xroar is actually a better emulation of Coco 1 & 2 than Vcc is of Coco 3... 
Vcc has many problems and really needs some work, but without the author's 
permission nothing can be done. Xroar has more true hardware emulation. But 
still... Vcc is the best of the Coco 3 emulators, I agree, but to say to "stop 
talking about xroar" would be ludicris as MANY users would rather use a Coco 1 & 
2 as that was what they had before and never owned a Coco 3 nor ever wanted one. 
Personally, I use both in the real machines as well as the emulators.
> 
> Mess & Xroar for Linux? Mac?
> I recently went through every emulator I know of (as well as asking here on 
the list) trying to find an emulator for a friend to run Coco software on his 
Mac and found NO emulator but Mocha that would run properly on Mac Mountainlion 
OS. According to Xroar's author, Xroar was tested on his own (older) mac 
developement system and has problems with certain Mac OS bulds due to not having 
access to that operating system himself.
> 
> As for Mess... I keep hearing it can be compiled on Linux and Mac but have yet 
to see anything younger than 10 years old and mostly "unobtainable". Mac 
especially. There was a very old build but it will not run on modern Macs. There 
was recently a discussion of Mess on Linux, but no one produced a copy.
> I did at one time have an old copy of Mess for Linux with the becker port but 
have no idea where the archive of it went to, so I know it can be done.... it's 
just not being done.
> 
> The main point was that someone needs to do a new emulator... Possibly 
switchable from Coco1 to 2 to 3, and it needs to be crossplatform so that we 
have a reference emulator across the board for all Coco users. I don't care if 
it has "Coco 4" super features or not, as long as it's 100.99% Coco 1 ,2 and 3 
compatable.
> 
> 
> Bill Pierce
> "Today is a good day... I woke up" - Ritchie Havens
>  
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cyberpunk <cyberpunk at prtc.net>
> To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts <coco at maltedmedia.com>
> Sent: Sat, Mar 8, 2014 10:53 am
> Subject: Re: [Coco] Vcc 1.4.3b and DW4 Installation Guide
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Xroar only emulates the CoCo 1&2 not the CoCo 3 which VCC does, please stop 
> assuming that everyone only want to emulate those versions only, by 
recommending 
> Xroar as as a better solution when is clearly not.
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> Saturday, 08 March 2014, 11:19AM -0400 from Aaron Wolfe <aawolfe at gmail.com>:
> XRoar runs on Linux, Windows, Macs and has been ported to many other 
platforms.
> Same for MESS.
> On Sat, Mar 8, 2014 at 6:55 AM, Bill Pierce < ooogalapasooo at aol.com > wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>> I have made a "Vcc 1.4.3b and DW4 Installation Guide" page at Cocopedia:

>>
>>  http://www.cocopedia.com/wiki/index.php/VCC_1.4.3b_and_DW4_Installation_Guide
>>
>> I started this a while back but have so many Coco "projects" going on, it 
> seemed to have slipped out of my focus. I ran across it while searching for 
> something else and decided to "sort of" finish it up. I still need to add a 
> couple of things like more screenshots, but for the most part it will get a 
new 
> user up and running.
>>
>> I tried to cover most aspects of installing Vcc 1.4.3b with Becker Port 
> support and DriveWire4. I hope this helps others to understand the process. Of 

> course since Vcc is a Windows program, this is for Windows users only.
>>
>> Not to start the Windows vs Linux argument but I find it kind of ironic that 
> most of the Coco users are Linux users... but ALL of the Coco emulators have 
> been written for/by MSDOS/Windows users with the exception of 1 Mac emulator 
> attempt (Virtual Coco) and 1 Java emulator (Mocha). Come on Linux guys.... 
let's 
> see a Linux Coco emulator. I think it would be a much more suitable enviroment 

> for the Coco than Windos....
>>
>>
>> Bill Pierce
>> "Today is a good day... I woke up" - Ritchie Havens
>>
>>
>> My Music from the Tandy/Radio Shack Color Computer 2 & 3
>>  https://sites.google.com/site/dabarnstudio/
>> Co-Webmaster of The TRS-80 Color Computer Archive
>>  http://www.colorcomputerarchive.com/
>> Co-Contributor, Co-Editor for CocoPedia
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