[Coco] 5-1/4″ DS DD 80 track drive, 300 RPM mod

Kandur k at qdv.pw
Thu Jul 3 00:33:36 EDT 2014


Found the solution, before seeing your answer. :)
I looked at the 'dw.bl' bootlist, and saw the 'X' entries.
Thanks anyway.

Kandur

Wednesday, July 2, 2014, 9:20:21 PM, you wrote:
> For your second question, do you have the /X0
> etc and your /d0 etc in your boot?.  I have /x0,
> /x1 .. /x4 as well as /d0, /d1 & /d2 for rb1773.
> So for copying I usually mount DW /x1 (or disk 1
> in DW) to what I want to copy and go to my HD
> (/dd) or any other drive.

> Bill Nobel

> On Jul 2, 2014, at 9:55 PM, Kandur <k at qdv.pw> wrote:

>> Bill, I have an HD backup set, made on a Coco-3 running OS_9 L2,
>> on 28 floppies, created by the HDKIT archiver/backup program.
>> Just want to restore/unpack them to any HD, anywhere.
>> Here is one question for you, while running nos-9 L2 dw on the Coco,
>> how can I copy a file from a mounted virtual disk on the server?

>> Kandur

>> Wednesday, July 2, 2014, 8:17:48 PM, you wrote:
>>> Ok, I think I now understand what you are
>>> trying to do, been kinda watching the thread.  I
>>> assume you have the restore program for you
>>> backup under your boot with DriveWire?  If so I
>>> ended up using winimg under Mess to move the
>>> disks to virtuals from my PC zipped archive,
>>> then moved them to DriveWire disks. Then I used
>>> the restore program on the DriveWire drive to virtual HD.

>>> Bill Nobel

>>> On Jul 2, 2014, at 8:39 PM, Kandur <k at qdv.pw> wrote:

>>>> Wednesday, July 2, 2014, 4:43:36 PM, you wrote:
>>>>> Kandur wrote:
>>>>>> Many thanks Robert, you saved me a huge amount of wild goose chase.
>>>>>> My goal is to restore a 1989 scsi hard drive backup set on  floppies to an
>>>>>> actual scsi hard drive, connected to the Coco-3.

>>>>> You will need to indicate what was on the SCSI drive and how that was
>>>>> transferred to floppies. For example, if the
>>>>> hard drive was formatted so that 
>>>>> the first part was OS-9 and the second part was
>>>>> multiple 35-track Basic 
>>>>> floppies, that is a Ken-Ton RGBDOS system and it won't be a problem.
>>>>> If the the original hard drive had some other
>>>>> format, then you will probably 
>>>>> need to copy files rather than using a Backup command.

>>>> There could be a bit of misunderstanding regarding the HD restore.
>>>> Don't really care where to restore the backup, as long as 
>>>> the files can be accessed and I can copy them somewhere. 
>>>>> You need to be specific about what your system
>>>>> was and what you want your new 
>>>>> system to be. This group can't provide help in a vacuum.

>>>> The system consisted of a Coco-3, MPU, J&M FD and Owl Ware HD controllers.
>>>> 2x5.25" DS DD 80T 300rpm floppy drives and 2x100MB CDC Wren SCSI HDs, 
>>>> running OS-9 L2. Can't remember, how was the HD formatted.
>>>>>> I have the original
>>>>>> controllers for this. DW was new to me and a pleasant surprise.
>>>>>> I made a copy of one of my backup diskettes to a wd4 virtual floppy,
>>>>>> using hdb-dos, but have no way to confirm that, if it is good or not.
>>>>> Again where is the detail? What format did you
>>>>> use for the DW4 virtual floppy? 
>>>>> Did you copy files or use a backup command? Was
>>>>> it a Basic or OS-9 transfer?

>>>> Just followed these instructions:
>>>> "An example, to copy a disk from the CoCo to the PC:
>>>> Step 1. Mount a blank .dsk image in Drive 0 of the server on your PC .
>>>> Step 2. Type DRIVE#0 to switch to the virtual drive 0 (this is the default).
>>>> Step 3. Type DRIVE OFF 0 to turn off virtual disk 0 on drive 0 and turn on 
>>>>      floppy drive 0 connected to your CoCo.
>>>> Step 4. Insert your floppy into the CoCo's floppy disk drive 0 and type BACKUP 0 TO 1
>>>> The DriveWire and HDB-DOS will then transfer the contents of the real floppy 
>>>> to the virtual disk 1 in the drive 0 slot."
>>>>>> It still eludes me, how to copy  wd4 virtual floppies to a real floppies
>>>>>> or to a hard drive drive on the Coco, running nos-9. Is it possible at all?
>>>>> Of course it is possible. However, we can't
>>>>> answer hypothetical questions. Post 
>>>>> a specific question with details of all disks
>>>>> and files, virtual and real, if 
>>>>> you want an answer.

>>>> Come to think of it, I don't need that for the restoration.
>>>>>> Unless I get hold of a headless version of nos-9 L2 floppy or dw image,
>>>>>> where the console defaults to /T1 @ 9600 baud, can't use Dsave,
>>>>>> due to my 128k ram limitation. I tried it. My last resort is to buy a
>>>>>> $50 + shipping 512k ram upgrade for my 'like new' $45 Coco-3.
>>>>>> Kandur
>>>>> You are severely handicapped because of the
>>>>> small amount of memory on the Coco3. 
>>>>> However, that should not prevent transferring
>>>>> the contents of a DW4 virtual disk 
>>>>> to a real floppy on the Coco.
>>>>> It will make it very difficult to run NitrOS-9 on the Coco3 system.

>>>> You are absolutely right, I can't even edit the boot list, run scripts,
>>>> make a new boot disk, change descriptors, etc. with all those modules
>>>> in the stock repo disk images. That's why I need a stripped down,
>>>> no graphics, sound, joysticks, etc. L2 boot disk, where the console 
>>>> defaults to /T1 @ 9600 baud terminal. I made one of this, way back when,
>>>> worked great with my stock 128k Coco-3.
>>>>> Robert

>>>> Kandur

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