[Coco] CoCo4! 50% done!

Louis Ciotti lciotti at me.com
Wed Feb 5 15:16:25 EST 2014


I think the Kickstarter project already proved that this is not a viable project.

And there are way too many opinions and what it would incorporate there would never be a general agreement on what to include.

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> On Feb 5, 2014, at 1:20 PM, Bill Loguidice <bill at armchairarcade.com> wrote:
> 
> Is it really that simple, though? I don't know. I mean, I think "we" as the
> community could be able to come to something of a consensus of what we'd be
> willing to pay and what basic features would need to be met, but then would
> that be enough. What numbers are we talking about here? Would 100 of us
> willing to pay $200 for a faster/better/compatible CoCo 3 FPGA clone be
> enough to get it done the right way? More? Less? I think we'd need to know
> what realistic targets are. Maybe we'll find that the numbers just won't
> work, if say, it would take 300 people at $200.
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> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 2:05 PM, Nick Marentes <nickma at optusnet.com.au>wrote:
> 
>> Mark Marlette <mmarlette at ...> writes:
>> 
>>> So what is reasonable? $100, $200, $400??? What is reasonable to one is
>> unreasonable to another.
>>> 
>>> The amount NRE involved in the development of these platforms is
>> staggering.... If Altera is charging what
>>> they are for their DE-1 or SOCs can you imagine what the pricing would be
>> for each on a 100 unit run?
>> 
>> 
>> What we're looking at is a price that most people would be prepared to pay
>> in order to get enough units out there to encourage software development of
>> new products.
>> 
>> That is not a price based on what the cost to develop and produce but what
>> the market percieves it to be worth to them.
>> 
>> The reality is that even $400 is really a reasonable price. I remember
>> paying around $400 for my CoCo3 back in the 80's and that didn't include a
>> disk drive, so the FPGA CoCo is good value considering it has SD card
>> storage, more colors and runs much faster.
>> 
>> But are people prepared to pay that for a retro hobby computer when you can
>> buy a laptop with built in LCD and hard drive for less nowadays?
>> 
>> I think the magic price point is somewhere in the vicinity of $200.
>> Anything
>> more than that and people will question what they really want it for when
>> there is no software that particularly uses the new features.
>> 
>> Nick
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