[Coco] [Color Computer] Vcc OS-9 keyboard mapping

[Bill Pierce]

Jerry,
If you are using disks from the repo... well I can't think of a way ANY OS9 disk could contain /term and /w5 as the same window. They are two different descriptors for two different windows. I have been using disks from the repo for 10 or 12 years and have never seen that happen. The would have to be internally named to the same window number but with different "name" descriptions. I would think you would get an error if one was open and you tried to open another if they are the same window, but not really sure.

You can always use "wmode" (like dmode but for windows) to check and see what they are all set for. I know it's in the RTSI OS9 downloads. We need to put it in the CMDS in the repo disks (along with a few other "standard" 3rdparty cmds).
The first thing I do when I start creating boots is to set all my /Wx descriptors to HW 80 col text. I use Black on white for Term and color x on black for all the rest using a different color for each window so I always know which window I'm in and I always know when I've cycled back to Term.
I know of no software :commercial" that "relies" on the default OS9 window setting for their window modes. Most software I've seen sets it's own windows up anyway. I have no need for all those "odd" windows that are the defaults.
Even in my own software projects, I create all my own windows and ignore any "defaults" as I have to assume that no two people will have the same defaults.

And yes, if I remember correctly, the default colors for Term was Black on Green 80 col. Just as the repo disks are.


Bill Pierce
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-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry Cantrill <jwcantrill at earthlink.net>
To: coco <coco at maltedmedia.com>
Sent: Fri, Apr 18, 2014 11:50 pm
Subject: Re: [Coco] [Color Computer] Vcc OS-9 keyboard mapping


thanks Bill; Knowing that [END] was [BREAK], I tried [HOME] for [CLEAR] but, i 
tried again after your confirmation using /w1, /w4 and /w7. i was able to swap 
between them okay as advertised. so i looked a little closer to exactly what 
happened when i use /w5 and i think that /term and /w5 must be the same window 
on the pre-made dsk i am using. i can live with that while i am still 
re-learning. i think that i should have been suspicious with this 80 col black 
on green /term as it did not seem the same as i remembered as being a 32 col 
black on green from about 20+ years ago. (every body are always amazed that i 
have such a good memory - i just have to keep telling them it is my retrieval 
system that has all the faults).

as for the vhd, i will keep you in mind but for now i want to play with this 
some more before i advance too far. actually i would like to start with a stock 
OS-9 dsk(s) or a Nitros9 that is more closer to the orig OS-9 L2. i heard the 
earlier Nitros' were but i could only find this newer version 3.3 where i was 
looking.

again, thanks - jerry

-----Original Message-----
>Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2014 21:50:26 -0400 (EDT)
>From: Bill Pierce <ooogalapasooo at aol.com>
>Subject: Re: [Coco] [Color Computer] Vcc OS-9 keyboard mapping
>To: coco at maltedmedia.com
>Message-ID: <8D12988DE6ACDE5-984-30316 at webmail-d138.sysops.aol.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
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>@jwcantrill
>
>Try pressing the [HOME] key on your PC keyboard for [CLEAR]. Also, the [END] 
key is the [BREAK] key
>
>You will not be able to use the emulated hard drive due to NitrOS9 needs the 
"EmuDsk" driver and descriptors. If you need them, send me a private email and I 
can send you copies of them. Or I can make you a complete, pre-configured boot 
VHD if wanted :-)
>
>There are other options as well... just send me an email and I can explain.
>
>
>Bill Pierce
>"Today is a good day... I woke up" - Ritchie Havens
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: jwcantrill <jwcantrill at earthlink.net>
>To: ColorComputer <ColorComputer at yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Fri, Apr 18, 2014 7:40 pm
>Subject: [Coco] [Color Computer] Vcc OS-9 keyboard mapping
>
>
>i have taken the plunge and installed Vcc v1.42 (don't need DW yet) on my 
laptop 
>and have booted up Nitros9 v3.3 and all is well. Set my time, dir'd my 80 track 

>disk image (cant seem to get the .vhd recognized, but hat is for a later date), 

>mdir'd what's loaded and see the /w# drivers so started up a shell i=/w5& and 
it 
>looks like it did it except when i went to press the [CLEAR} key to swap to 
>it... where is the [CLEAR] key?
>
>i searched the net for but did not find anything to tell me what the Vcc Basic 
>or OS-9 keyboards maps to the "modern" laptop keys. Could someone point me in 
>the right direction?
>
>-thanks, jerry

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