[Coco] Terminal program for 16K non-ECB coco?

Mon Sep 10 02:09:56 EDT 2012

I think MikeyTerm did go to higher baud rates later as Mike Ward found better ways of accessing the bitbanger. I only used 300 baud myself the whole time I had my Cocos going. That DCM-3 was a tough little critter. It lasted through 4 Cocos. I always wanted an auto-dial modem but could never afford one.

Music from the Tandy/Radio Shack Color Computer 2 & 3
https://sites.google.com/site/dabarnstudio/
Bill Pierce
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-----Original Message-----
From: Arthur Flexser <flexser at fiu.edu>
To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts <coco at maltedmedia.com>
Sent: Mon, Sep 10, 2012 1:54 am
Subject: Re: [Coco] Terminal program for 16K non-ECB coco?

One thing I recall about Mikeyterm (all versions) is that it was
300-baud only (unless later versions supported the RS232 Pak).  I was
in touch with Mike Ward as he was developing the program, and I recall
that he wanted 100% bulletproof full-duplex communications, and that
precluded 1200 baud through the bitbanger, according to him.  So I
greatly preferred Colorcom/E at the time because it supported 1200
baud, though I don't recall if it could be used in 16K if you didn't
have the Rompack version.  There was no cassette version of
Colorcom/E, at least initially, and I recall saving and modifying
(relocating) the Rompack version to turn it into one.  Colorcom/E
could output text to a PMODE screen, but that slowed things down too
much for my taste and I preferred the standard text screen output.

Art

On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 1:41 AM, Bill Pierce <ooogalapasooo at aol.com> wrote:
>
> Chris, I can't find one old enough. The smallest one I can find is 20k. I know 
there was one fo 16k because I used it for about a year till I upgraded to a 64k 
machine. It always pissed me off when my buffer would get full and I'd realise 
that the file I was downloading was larger than my memory. I have few cassettes 
that survived Hurrican Floyd so I may ty looking through them. It will be 
sometime next week though due to the fact I am not at home and my Coco is. I 
return home Friday and I'll search those tapes.
>
> Music from the Tandy/Radio Shack Color Computer 2 & 3
> https://sites.google.com/site/dabarnstudio/
> Bill Pierce
> ooogalapasooo at aol.com
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: chris <cralt at comcast.net>
> To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts <coco at maltedmedia.com>
> Sent: Mon, Sep 10, 2012 12:57 am
> Subject: Re: [Coco] Terminal program for 16K non-ECB coco?
>
>
> Bill,
>
> So is Mikey happy to live in 16K?
>
>
> CAPS ONLY is kinda a pain on a unix machine.. lol
>
>
> thanks
> -chris
>
> On Sep 8, 2012, at 12:26 PM, Bill Pierce wrote:
>
>>
>> No need for further discussion. That did what I wanted. It seems for
>> some reason, the Coco emulater is not indented in the list as the
>> others. I had assumed it was a catagory listing and not an emulator
>> as all the other Cocos are indented under it. Too many years in
>> Windows Explorer I guess :-)
>>
>> Thanks again Mr Gault. The whole reason for this was to test some
>> versions of MikeyTerm I've found for Chris and I wanted to emulate
>> his machine.
>>
>> Music from the Tandy/Radio Shack Color Computer 2 & 3
>> https://sites.google.com/site/dabarnstudio/
>> Bill Pierce
>> ooogalapasooo at aol.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Robert Gault <robert.gault at att.net>
>> To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts <coco at maltedmedia.com>
>> Sent: Sat, Sep 8, 2012 11:09 am
>> Subject: Re: [Coco] MESS at 16k non-ext was Terminal program for 16K
>> non-ECB coco?
>>
>>
>> Bill Pierce wrote:
>>>
>>> Mr Gault... I should have known better <laughing>
>>>
>>>  I'm not trying to change ANY hardware into any others. I mearly
>>> want to set
>> a Coco 2 or Coco 1 to 16k, Color Basic. (no ext basic), as was a
>> standard retail
>> configuration (I own one). I tried 2 versions of MESS, "Mess0125b" &
>> "mess0143b_x64" (I have a 64 bit machine), both in Windows Home
>> Premium 64 bit.
>>>
>>>  When the "Ext Basic" roms are removed from the rom zips, NO
>>> version of Coco
>> 1 or 2 will run at all. MESS reports missing Roms and exits the
>> emulation. The
>> Coco 1 will actually set to 4k, 16k, 32k, & 64k.... BUT....
>>> Did anyone ever successfully run Ext Basic in 4K?
>>>
>>> I do not know how to set the "ini" file in ANY version of MESS, and
>>> maybe this
>> is what I should have asked in the beginning. Can you turn off the
>> "Ext Basic"
>> rom check? If so, How? And what version would do this best? I can
>> and will run
>> any Windows or Dos version to achieve this.
>>>
>>
>> OK, I've tested with MESS .143 .
>>
>> With MESS, if you don't want Extended Basic present, you should use
>> coco
>> emulation not cocoe, coco2, coco2b or anything else. I've tried
>> coco2 emulation
>> and while you can remove the disk11.rom you can't get rid of the
>> extbas11.rom
>> and get emulation to start.
>>
>> This version still supports messui.exe and with my Windows system, I
>> find it
>> easier to set parameters using messui.exe than mess.exe. Even with
>> coco2, I can
>> set and get PCLREAR1 PRINTMEM 13095.
>>
>> Now, I find MESS .143 slightly buggy. That's because setting
>> parameters for
>> specific emulations does not always take. It helps when using
>> messui.exe to set
>> the paramters for say coco and then kill messui.exe. The next time
>> it starts the
>>
>> parameters usually take.
>> MESS uses the sub-directories cfg and ini to store parameters. If
>> you set
>> parameters or even used coco emulation, you should find a coco.ini
>> file. Right
>> clicking on an emulation in messui.exe permits selection of
>> properties and there
>>
>> is a configuration panel for selecting memory size.
>> ROMs are stored in the sub-directory roms which either holds zip
>> files or more
>> sub-directories for each emulation with .rom files.
>>
>> When coco is set for 16K and started, you should see
>> COLOR BASIC 1.0
>> Enter the following
>> PRINT MEM
>> and see
>>  14631
>>
>> I think that further discussion would be better off this list by
>> direct e-mail.
>>
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