[Coco] Color LOGO

Fri Apr 2 16:41:54 EDT 2010

Ok, still using a powerbook G4, with OS-X 10.4.11, but now I've involked VirtualPC 7.03 with MSIE 6 
on windows 2000,
and clicked on   ftp://randomrodder.com@ftp.randomrodder.com/

went right to the website with no login.  seems to work very well  !!       -ph

-----Original Message-----
From: Aaron Wolfe <aawolfe at gmail.com>
To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts <coco at maltedmedia.com>
Sent: Fri, Apr 2, 2010 2:43 pm
Subject: Re: [Coco] Color LOGO

On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Tim Fadden <t.fadden at cox.net> wrote:
 On 4/2/2010 11:53 AM, Aaron Wolfe wrote:
>
> On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 9:56 AM,<paulh96636 at aol.com>  wrote:
>
>>
>> Didn't work for me using Safari on OSX 10.4.1
>>  error code -36
>>
>>
>
> Then your browser fails to properly implement RFC 1738, which is where
> URL syntax is defined.
>
> Although that is possible, I suspect this is not the case, and you are
> not actually seeing what is in my message.  Poorly behaved mail
> clients like to mangle URLs that don't fit their limited understanding
> of the syntax.  The best approach, if you must use one of these mail
> clients, is to view messages as plain text.  This should preserve the
> URL as I typed it.
>
> -Aaron
>
>
>

 If using thunderbird, do a "mouse over" on the link.  At the bottom you will
 see the correct link address.

 Also, If you go back to the original web link on:
 http://colorcomputer.50webs.com/cocolinks-en.html and show a "mouse over",

 It shows up as:   ftp://anonymous@randomrodder.com@ftp.randomrodder.com/

 Which is different than what is being sent around.

That is different from the URL I've suggested folks try only in that
he first "@" in my version is replaced by %40.
he two are equivalent in any browser that supports internet
tandards, but having two @ signs seemed to confused IE whereas using
40 in it's place worked fine.
Having an @ sign in an FTP user name is probably not a great idea for
ompatibility with the widest range of clients, but it is legal.
> If you go there, and then put in:  anonymous at randomrodder.com  for the
 password, it works When using Firefox.

Firefox also supports the variation of putting a : after the username
nd before the @site:
ftp://anonymous%40randomrodder.com:@ftp.randomrodder.com/
This tells Firefox to use a password of "nothing" which gets you in
nd prevents any password prompts from showing up at all.  Even though
his syntax is used as an example in the RFC itself, IE doesn't seem
o allow it.  Instead I had to leave out the null password  (:) and
hen respond to a "Enter password" prompt with nothing.

 Also, when using FTPVoyager (a windows gui ftp client)  anonymous login does
 not work. what does work is:
 Login:  anonymous at randomrodder.com
 Password:  anonymous at randomrodder.com

 This is the strangest setup I have ever seen, one of a kind, and I use ftp
 on a daily basis all over the place.

Agree it is a weird setup.  I've not seen it before either.  Rather
han supporting anonymous FTP properly, the site requires regular user
ogin as "anonymous at randomrodder.com".   I never type a password
hough, I leave it blank and it works.  In any case, simple changing
he site to use regular anonymous FTP (if public access is the goal)
ould sure save some folks on the list some trouble! :)

 That is the only way I have been able to get in any how.  I don't know about
 rfc's, But I can figure out how to get in! :-)

The RFC that defines URL syntax is pretty easier to understand, and
nowing it will let you use your browser to do all kinds of cool
hings:
3.1. Common Internet Scheme Syntax
   While the syntax for the rest of the URL may vary depending on the
  particular scheme selected, URL schemes that involve the direct use
  of an IP-based protocol to a specified host on the Internet use a
  common syntax for the scheme-specific data:
        //<user>:<password>@<host>:<port>/<url-path>
   Some or all of the parts "<user>:<password>@", ":<password>",
  ":<port>", and "/<url-path>" may be excluded.  The scheme specific
  data start with a double slash "//" to indicate that it complies with
  the common Internet scheme syntax. The different components obey the
  following rules:
    user
       An optional user name. Some schemes (e.g., ftp) allow the
       specification of a user name.
    password
       An optional password. If present, it follows the user
       name separated from it by a colon.
   The user name (and password), if present, are followed by a
  commercial at-sign "@". Within the user and password field, any ":",
  "@", or "/" must be encoded.
   Note that an empty user name or password is different than no user
  name or password; there is no way to specify a password without
  specifying a user name. E.g., <URL:ftp://@host.com/> has an empty
  user name and no password, <URL:ftp://host.com/> has no user name,
  while <URL:ftp://foo:@host.com/> has a user name of "foo" and an
  empty password.

(from http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1738.html)
-Aaron
> Tim

>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Aaron Wolfe<aawolfe at gmail.com>
>> To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts<coco at maltedmedia.com>
>> Sent: Thu, Apr 1, 2010 10:19 pm
>> Subject: Re: [Coco] Color LOGO
>>
>>
>> ftp://anonymous%40randomrodder.com@ftp.randomrodder.com/
>>
>> try that one. ie is picky
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 10:05 PM, Bob Devries<devries.bob at gmail.com>
>>  wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Brian wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> ftp://anonymous%40randomrodder.com:@ftp.randomrodder.com/
>>>>
>>>
>>> Neither my Outlook Express nor Internet Explorer will resolve that to a
>>> usable address.
>>> If I copy the URL to IE, it gives me the usual page that tells me I
>>> failed.
>>> Clicking the link gives nothing at all. OE doesn't recognise it as a
>>> URL.
>>>
>>> Regards, Bob Devries
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Besides a mathematical inclination, an exceptionally good mastery of
>>> one's
>>> native tongue is the most vital asset of a competent programmer.
>>>
>>> Edsger W.Dijkstra, 18 June 1975
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian
>>> Blake"<random.rodder at gmail.com>
>>> To: "CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts"<coco at maltedmedia.com>
>>> Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 11:58 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Coco] Color LOGO
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> ftp://anonymous%40randomrodder.com:@ftp.randomrodder.com/
>>>>
>>>> Try that one... worked for me.
>>>>
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