[Coco] [Color Computer] [coco] Coco CNC

Gene Heskett gene.heskett at verizon.net
Tue Feb 13 18:34:23 EST 2007


On Tuesday 13 February 2007, altair8800c wrote:
>Charlie,
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> Some huge Okuma's out there with 6+ pallet changers. These are
>$2,000,000,000+ machines. Very neat to see run.
>
2 Billion Dollars?  Let's just say that is a lot of money.

> -Neil
>
>--- In ColorComputer at yahoogroups.com, "Charlie" <chazbeenhad at ...> wrote:
>> Hello! 600K a pop? Wow, what types of machines are they?
>>
>> I'm a CNC technical leadman for some 16+ years now. My career has
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>mostly been working
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>> with English and American built Cincinnati CNC mills. Mostly Arrows
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>and Lancers.
>
>> -Charlie
>>
>>
>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>   From: George's Coco Address
>>   To: ColorComputer at yahoogroups.com
>>   Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 12:55 AM
>>   Subject: [Color Computer] [coco] Coco CNC
>>
>>
>>   Okay!
>>
>>   I've been working on my Coco powered "Tiny CNC" machine this
>> weekend.
>>
>>   Whew!
>>
>>   What a task! I discovered that the axis designations were all
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>messed up.
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>>   (You learn a LOT when working in a machine shop)
>>
>>   All three were wrong. X, Y and Z were wrong. So I renamed them and
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>in the
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>>   process, I lost the driver(B09 driver) for the REAL Y axis.
>>
>>   No problem, I thought. Just rename the X or Z axis driver. Well,
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>it didn't
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>>   work. After two days, I discover several problem with my hardware
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>that
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>>   proved that the port for the Y axis was wired incorrectly, the
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>cable that
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>>   connected it was also wired incorectly and the software to correct
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>this
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>>   error is now lost.
>>
>>   No matter about the software. I repaired my mistakes with the
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>hardware and
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>>   now the software to drive the servos works correctly. I can swap
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>the cables
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>>   to each of the servos and it works correctly.
>>
>>   Since I've been working at a machine shop, I was forced to buy some
>>   precision instruments such as a dial caliper. My old vernier
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>caliper was not
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>>   acceptable at work.
>>
>>   Hmm. I really can't see any accuracy difference except for the
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>fact that
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>>   the dial is easier to read.
>>
>>   Anyway..... Math always works......
>>
>>   All three lead screws are 32 TPI. The three servos are 200 steps
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>per inch.
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>>   Doing the math, this comes to 6400 steps per inch, or precision to
>>   .00015625.
>>
>>   Not bad, but not as good as what I work with at my job.
>>
>>   I've learned that offsets and HOME are important. (I did have
>> trouble figuring into this on my coco)
>>
>>   FINDING HOME:
>>   Originally and even now, I use brute force to drive the axis into a
>>   mechanical stop. The stepping motor would stall there and hum
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>until the
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>>   software stopped driving it. At that time, I set the software to
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>assume it
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>>   was HOME. Actually, it works! However, it isn't elegant. So I'll
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>add some
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>>   micro switches to the sytem to fix this. Besides, I can move that
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>switch to
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>>   a more convenient place for each project.
>>   My coco takes a long time to step these motors to where they are
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>supposed
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>>   to be. Basic09 is a lot faster than RS Basic, but it doesn't hold
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>a candle
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>>   to ML. .....Someday, maybe!
>>
>>   I envy you folks that can "whip up an ML program".
>>
>>   So far, I can move each of the three axis from home to the limit
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>and back
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>>   and my dial indicator reports a return of exactly zero. This
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>implies that my
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>>   stepping motors, power transistors, software and math are working
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>correctly.
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>>   The only problem is finding home. The micro switches will take
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>care of
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>>   this.
>>
>>   Backlash on each of the three axis are different. The Y axis is
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>only about
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>>   two steps on the stepping motor. This is incredible!. However, I
>> took extreme care to minimize backlash when building this thing. I
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>won't go into
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>>   detail on how I did this until later.
>>
>>   I've learned at work, that extreme brute force and extreme mass of
>>   machinery is important to get the results necessary. Heavy metal
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>is good!
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>>   However, it's expensive. The machines that I work with cost a TON
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>of money.
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>>   We're talking 600 thousand dollars for a small one. My first 4k
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>coco was
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>>   $300 and took a couple of pay checks to pay for it. So, I won't
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>expect to do
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>>   what those monsters can do. I just want to make some small gears,
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>sprockets
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>>   and pulleys. Later, I want to do some 3D stufff, small things.
>>
>>   More later....
>>
>>   George



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