[Coco] Re: Free coco items from farna....

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Sat Jul 2 09:49:01 EDT 2005


Someone replied to my previous message about a few items I have, but I lost the e-mail!! Have them packaged now, would you send me an e-mail with the mailing address?? 

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>    1. CoCo stuff and magazines available (Tony Podraza)
>    2. RE: Vol. IX No. 1 Scanned (Roger Taylor)
>    3. Cleaning a CoCo case... (Rogelio Perea)
>    4. Re: [Color Computer] 1M simms in Cloud9 SIMM upgrade kit
>       (Mike Pepe)
>    5. Re: [Color Computer] 1M simms in Cloud9 SIMM upgrade kit
>       (Paul T. Barton)
>    6. Re: [Color Computer] 1M simms in Cloud9 SIMM upgrade kit
>       (Paul T. Barton)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 22:57:20 GMT
> From: "Tony Podraza" <tonypodraza at juno.com>
> Subject: [Coco] CoCo stuff and magazines available
> To: coco at maltedmedia.com
> Message-ID: <20050628.155743.28900.268097 at webmail15.lax.untd.com>
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> 
> 
> I recently received an email from a lady in NY about the gear of her late 
> husband.  I asked her if I could pass it along; perhaps there is someone closer 
> to her than I am who can rescue the material.
> 
> "My husband passed away a couple of years ago and had a collection of coco 
> computers and rainbow tapes.  I don't know anything about the coco computers or 
> rainbow but I don't want to just discard them(I'll be moving in a few months) 
> and wonder if anyone would be interested in them.  As I said I know nothing 
> about them.  I live in the southwest corner of New York state near the PA border 
> and Erie, PA.  Thanks.    Corinne"
> 
> If you are interested, drop me a line and I will forward her email address to 
> you.  No sense blurting it out to the world.  Besides, I was silly and forgot to 
> copy it down before I started this message.
> 
> Any Takers?
> 
>  
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2005 15:25:08 -0500
> From: Roger Taylor <roger at newfoal.com>
> Subject: RE: [Coco] Vol. IX No. 1 Scanned
> To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts <coco at maltedmedia.com>
> Message-ID: <6.2.1.2.0.20050615151822.01d19858 at mail.newfoal.com>
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> At 01:57 PM 6/15/2005, you wrote:
> >For reference here is my version of the cleaned cover:
> >
> >http://www.musicheadproductions.org/coco/newcover2.jpg
> >
> >
> >Here's the links you originally provided for cross reference:
> >
> >www.coco3.com/oldcover.jpg
> >
> >www.coco3.com/newcover.jpg
> >
> 
> 
> No offense, but your newcover2.jpg looks worse than my oldcover.jpg  :)
> 
> For me, the oil paint filter in MGI Photo Suite III does wonders.  Take the 
> resulting image and dither it down to 64-128 colors and you'll get a fairly 
> optimized image for printers and monitors.  I think I used 90% compression 
> on the JPEG, which is probably somewhat too high.
> 
> I won't have time to be helping too much with this project, but I thought 
> I'd let you know what removes magazine cover blemishes the best for me.
> 
> Good luck,
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Roger Taylor
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2005 22:29:24 -0400
> From: "Rogelio Perea" <os9dude at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [Coco] Cleaning a CoCo case...
> To: <coco at maltedmedia.com>
> Message-ID: <BAY104-DAV215695766F30E36C97795FAE00 at phx.gbl>
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> 	reply-type=original
> 
> Thanks for all the suggestions on the CGP-110 and PC-2 plotter mini gears, 
> this upcoming weekend shall find me laboring at trying to fix that.
> 
> On other CoCo project, I set to replace the internal fan I had put in my 
> CoCo 3 bottom shell a few years ago, the micro fan was bought at Radio Shack 
> and it had become very noisy and I just got two smaller low profile Minebea 
> micro fans. The first fan was set for intake at one of the vents directly 
> below the keyboard and worked very weel at keeping the components cool, the 
> new fans would be set on the top shell of the case as exhaust, one directly 
> above the RAM chips and the other on top of the 6809.
> 
> While prepping the top shell I decided to clean it off a little bit. For 
> that I always had use off the shelf cleaners, at one time I tried Windex 
> with varying levels of success, all cleaners I had used left behing a film 
> of crud on the textured areas of the plastic case, mainly at the keyboard 
> cutout and the top vent ribs. Just for kicks I decided to try some new 
> stuff -> Greased Lightning... I was amazed at how deep and well it would 
> clean up the CoCo case, it restored it to brand new condition - the case had 
> not been exposed to sun so there was no yellowing, I can't verify if the 
> noted cleaner would do something good to a yellowed case.
> 
> So if you need to clean the off-white CoCo cases try the above product. One 
> BIG word of caution: put a carefully placed mask over the CoCo badge, 
> Greased Lightning will discolor the black background as well as the 3 color 
> bars, I learned this the hard way, as my CoCo 3 badge sports now a dull 
> black color with no colored RGB bars, looks kind of sterile now :-)
> 
> Also worthy of mention is that I didn't try (yet) to clean a battleship gray 
> case, my assumption (from what happened t me and my CoCo 3 case) is thet the 
> silver color could probably be stripped away by the cleaner revealing the 
> black surface of the plastic shell.
> 
> Use this stuff with great care!. Properly used it can help you restore that 
> CoCo 3 finish to pristine glory.
> 
> 
> 
> -=[ Rogelio ]=- 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 09:08:55 -0400
> From: Mike Pepe <lamune at doki-doki.net>
> Subject: Re: [Coco] [Color Computer] 1M simms in Cloud9 SIMM upgrade
> 	kit
> To: ColorComputer at yahoogroups.com
> Message-ID: <42C29D67.6020301 at doki-doki.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> 
> Paul, Gene...
> 
> I think you're right. I see a flaw in my theory but practical testing 
> seems to go with Paul on this one.
> 
> A 256k DRAM, although it's "9 bits per axis" actually only has 256 
> columns (8 bit refresh)
> 
> A 1M DRAM, whichi is "10 bits per axis"  only has 512 columns (9 bit 
> refresh)
> 
> I would still think that in theory you just don't use half of those 
> columns and the memory works fine. I ran the cloud9 memory test for 
> hours and hours and hours and everything tested fine.
> 
> I then ran the practical peripherals memory test just to verify  my 
> results, and it reports errors with anything I test except 256k modules. 
> So, it's possible the algorithm in the first memory test was keeping 
> things refreshed but a more sophisticated test shows some errors.
> 
> It's too bad we can't hack that stupid GIME chip. there's plenty of time 
> to refresh a 1M chip as although there are twice as many columns to 
> refresh the time in which you have to refresh it is doubled.
> 
> Well it was an interesting experiment nonetheless!
> 
> Paul T. Barton wrote:
> > Mike,
> > 
> > Just let it sit for a minute or so,
> > doing nothing, it may crash. My experience.
> > 
> > Paul T Barton
> > 
> > 
> > --- Mike Pepe <lamune at doki-doki.net> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >>I was going to send this over to Mark at cloud
> >>9, but I figured I'd open it to the group.
> >>
> >>I'm unsing a Cloud 9 512k SIMM upgrade board.
> > 
> > --snipped--
> > 
> >>Then I got brave and installed a set of 1M 3
> >>chip modules. They also 
> >>work! I've been running a memory test on it for
> >>several hours and no problems reported.
> > 
> > --snipped--
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 		
> > ____________________________________________________ 
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> > 
> > 
> > Brought to you by the 6809, the 6803 and their cousins! 
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> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > 
> 
> 
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 08:05:27 -0700 (PDT)
> From: "Paul T. Barton" <idezilla at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Coco] [Color Computer] 1M simms in Cloud9 SIMM upgrade
> 	kit
> To: ColorComputer at yahoogroups.com,	CoCoList for Color Computer
> 	Enthusiasts <coco at maltedmedia.com>
> Message-ID: <20050629150527.44848.qmail at web41215.mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> 
> Mike,
> 
> Still, I think that it can be done.
> By using CAS before RAS DRAM internal refreshing.
> The DRAMs keep their own internal counter
> for this. Just swap RAS for CAS,
> only during HSync and/or VSync.
> I know that this works, I use it.
> 
> I could give out a partial schematic for this,
> if you want a look-see.
> 
> Paul
> 
> --- Mike Pepe <lamune at doki-doki.net> wrote:
> 
> > Paul, Gene...
> > 
> > I think you're right. I see a flaw in my theory
> > but practical testing 
> > seems to go with Paul on this one.
> > 
> > A 256k DRAM, although it's "9 bits per axis"
> > actually only has 256 
> > columns (8 bit refresh)
> > 
> > A 1M DRAM, whichi is "10 bits per axis"  only
> > has 512 columns (9 bit 
> > refresh)
> > 
> > I would still think that in theory you just
> > don't use half of those 
> > columns and the memory works fine. I ran the
> > cloud9 memory test for 
> > hours and hours and hours and everything tested
> > fine.
> > 
> > I then ran the practical peripherals memory
> > test just to verify  my 
> > results, and it reports errors with anything I
> > test except 256k modules. 
> > So, it's possible the algorithm in the first
> > memory test was keeping 
> > things refreshed but a more sophisticated test
> > shows some errors.
> > 
> > It's too bad we can't hack that stupid GIME
> > chip. there's plenty of time 
> > to refresh a 1M chip as although there are
> > twice as many columns to 
> > refresh the time in which you have to refresh
> > it is doubled.
> > 
> > Well it was an interesting experiment
> > nonetheless!
> > 
> > Paul T. Barton wrote:
> > > Mike,
> > > 
> > > Just let it sit for a minute or so,
> > > doing nothing, it may crash. My experience.
> > > 
> > > Paul T Barton
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- Mike Pepe <lamune at doki-doki.net> wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > >>I was going to send this over to Mark at
> > cloud
> > >>9, but I figured I'd open it to the group.
> > >>
> > >>I'm unsing a Cloud 9 512k SIMM upgrade board.
> > > 
> > > --snipped--
> > > 
> > >>Then I got brave and installed a set of 1M 3
> > >>chip modules. They also 
> > >>work! I've been running a memory test on it
> > for
> > >>several hours and no problems reported.
> > > 
> > > --snipped--
> 
> 
> 
> 		
> ____________________________________________________ 
> Yahoo! Sports 
> Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football 
> http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 08:05:27 -0700 (PDT)
> From: "Paul T. Barton" <idezilla at yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [Coco] [Color Computer] 1M simms in Cloud9 SIMM upgrade
> 	kit
> To: ColorComputer at yahoogroups.com,	CoCoList for Color Computer
> 	Enthusiasts <coco at maltedmedia.com>
> Message-ID: <20050629150527.44848.qmail at web41215.mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
> 
> Mike,
> 
> Still, I think that it can be done.
> By using CAS before RAS DRAM internal refreshing.
> The DRAMs keep their own internal counter
> for this. Just swap RAS for CAS,
> only during HSync and/or VSync.
> I know that this works, I use it.
> 
> I could give out a partial schematic for this,
> if you want a look-see.
> 
> Paul
> 
> --- Mike Pepe <lamune at doki-doki.net> wrote:
> 
> > Paul, Gene...
> > 
> > I think you're right. I see a flaw in my theory
> > but practical testing 
> > seems to go with Paul on this one.
> > 
> > A 256k DRAM, although it's "9 bits per axis"
> > actually only has 256 
> > columns (8 bit refresh)
> > 
> > A 1M DRAM, whichi is "10 bits per axis"  only
> > has 512 columns (9 bit 
> > refresh)
> > 
> > I would still think that in theory you just
> > don't use half of those 
> > columns and the memory works fine. I ran the
> > cloud9 memory test for 
> > hours and hours and hours and everything tested
> > fine.
> > 
> > I then ran the practical peripherals memory
> > test just to verify  my 
> > results, and it reports errors with anything I
> > test except 256k modules. 
> > So, it's possible the algorithm in the first
> > memory test was keeping 
> > things refreshed but a more sophisticated test
> > shows some errors.
> > 
> > It's too bad we can't hack that stupid GIME
> > chip. there's plenty of time 
> > to refresh a 1M chip as although there are
> > twice as many columns to 
> > refresh the time in which you have to refresh
> > it is doubled.
> > 
> > Well it was an interesting experiment
> > nonetheless!
> > 
> > Paul T. Barton wrote:
> > > Mike,
> > > 
> > > Just let it sit for a minute or so,
> > > doing nothing, it may crash. My experience.
> > > 
> > > Paul T Barton
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- Mike Pepe <lamune at doki-doki.net> wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > >>I was going to send this over to Mark at
> > cloud
> > >>9, but I figured I'd open it to the group.
> > >>
> > >>I'm unsing a Cloud 9 512k SIMM upgrade board.
> > > 
> > > --snipped--
> > > 
> > >>Then I got brave and installed a set of 1M 3
> > >>chip modules. They also 
> > >>work! I've been running a memory test on it
> > for
> > >>several hours and no problems reported.
> > > 
> > > --snipped--
> 
> 
> 
> 		
> ____________________________________________________ 
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