[Coco] re" "Who came up with pyDriveWire ?"

[Rick Ulland]

This is the sort of thing Docker et al are supposed to paper over - if 
an app needs Java 6 or clib 5, sobeit, load your container full of old 
crap. Just don't ask to go outside alone.
It's an effective way to avoid 'dll hell' but then, how would you sell 
new editions? So docker is mainly available to people who don't need it 
for code they'd rather not use it for.  (scrape)

Until recently, I had to support 3 versions of windows times 
AllTheBrowsers, a couple versions of linux desktops and a server OS or 
three, and personally, I still use MS Money 99 on WinXP.
I was given one company laptop, so 'Sybil' often ran Virtualbox.

It worked. My Get'erDone position is to emulate whatever you need inside 
a VM like virtualbox, take a little speed hit occasionally but move 
ahead using tools you know.

Personally, I'd like to give a poke at your PageStream issue because 
publishers are cool and you might want to do that again? Email details.


-ricku
CoNect



On 8/10/20 10:39 AM, Francis Swygert wrote:
> "if running an application means spending 3 days trying to modify the
> system to get something working there is a serious problem"
> Part of the issue here is you're working with to disparate systems though -- CoCo (OS-9 or DECB) and Windows 10 or Linux. I think there is a Mac version of DriveWire too.
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> Add that to Jim's other argument:"It may be a serious problem for the person trying to install, but
> perhaps not for the author:
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>    * Am I trying to design a tool for lots of people to use, or is my
>      attempt just another option to consider?
>    * Are there lots of people having the same issue?
>    * If so, do I plan to support it or change to accommodate it?
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> I stand by my original point.  You are free to choose to install the app
> (or not, if you can't or find it too hard to get it to do so in your
> environment, but casting concerns about the choice of language is
> overstepping."
> I am more a user than anything any more, and I've had trouble loading some programs in Linux. I usually find the help I need on various forums, but sometimes not. I'm currently trying to get PageStream (a commercial DTP program) up and running again (I used it extensively about five years ago, lost it when updating Linux Mint) and run into the usual "you should be using an open source program" comments and grudging help. Scribus may work now, wasn't developed enough when I first looked into it about 10 years ago and settled on PageStream. Now I have some older PageStream files I want to copy from, and I'm familiar with it and want to use it for a new project. Linux people don't want to support anything that's not open source, and developers don't want to expose their code to just anybody, so there will never be much commercial software for Linux, so it will never seriously challenge Windows, the defacto standard OS. Linux proponents don't seem to get that!! I understand the open source movement, but you don't have to suppress everything else -- especially if it's the better product. Today Scribus seems to be as robust as PageStream, but I'm already vested in PgS. I don't care about Open Source -- I'm not a programmer and won't be modifying any code myself.  Sorry for the OT rant...
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