[Coco] NitrOS9 question

David Ladd davidwladd at gmail.com
Sat Oct 7 00:40:37 EDT 2017


Dave,

To fix my booting issue I just added sysgo into the OS9Boot file to fill up
some space (*shrug*) and works fine.  I know it doesn't make any sense, but
maybe Robert, Curtis, Bill, or Bill can give some feedback on this.

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On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 8:26 PM, Dave Philipsen <dave at davebiz.com> wrote:

> Ok, so it’s larger than $4401.  I’d be curious to see what would happen if
> you removed rb1773, d0, d1, and d2 from the bootfile.  That would probably
> get it down below $4401 in size.
>
> Dave
>
> > On Oct 6, 2017, at 8:19 PM, David Ladd <davidwladd at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Dave,
> >
> > Here is the directory from the root:
> >
> > {Term|02}/DD:dir -e
> >
> > Directory of .  2017/09/28 23:04
> >
> > Owner  Last modified   Attributes Sector Bytecount Name
> > ----- ---------------- ---------- ------ --------- ----
> >  0  2017/10/06 15:49  ------wr      13      485F OS9Boot
> >  0  2017/10/06 15:49  d-ewrewr      5D       B20 CMDS
> >  0  2017/10/06 15:49  d-ewrewr      66       1C0 SYS
> >  0  2017/10/06 15:49  d-ewrewr      6F       100 DEFS
> >  0  2017/09/28 21:12  ----r-wr      78       F00 ccbkrn
> >  0  2017/09/28 21:12  --e-rewr      88       1FF sysgo
> >  0  2017/09/28 21:01  ----r-wr     62D        F9 startup
> >  0  2017/10/06 15:49  d-ewrewr     62F        60 NITROS9
> >
> >
> >
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> >
> >> On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 7:43 PM, Dave Philipsen <dave at davebiz.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Ok, so how big is the bootfile?
> >>
> >> Dave
> >>
> >>> On Oct 6, 2017, at 4:15 PM, David Ladd <davidwladd at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Dave,
> >>>
> >>> Since I can't test this on a CoCo3FPGA right now I did finally get my
> >>> Deluxe RS232 Pak working.  I modified the make files for the NitrOS-9
> >>> project and made myself a CoCoSDC headless that uses the sc6551 driver
> >> and
> >>> term modules.  Here is my short ident of my OS9Boot file.  I tested it
> >> and
> >>> it does work and with the standard Shell+ as well.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> {Term|02}/DD:ident os9boot -s
> >>> 19 $C0 $FA063B . KrnP2
> >>> 13 $C1 $FB10BD . IOMan
> >>>  1 $C0 $9D910E . Init
> >>> 37 $D1 $245E32 . RBF
> >>>  2 $E1 $84C07C . RBSuper
> >>> 22 $21 $230904 . llcocosdc
> >>> 82 $F1 $DB0F90 . SD0
> >>> 82 $F1 $081F95 . SD1
> >>> 82 $F1 $F8621C . DD
> >>>  1 $E1 $A4EB50 . rb1773
> >>> 82 $F1 $045CD6 . D0
> >>> 82 $F1 $803FAD . D1
> >>> 82 $F1 $8C9A43 . D2
> >>> 18 $D1 $55C62E . SCF
> >>> 10 $E1 $67C110 . sc6551
> >>> 83 $F1 $64212E . Term
> >>>  5 $D1 $6F9717 . PipeMan
> >>>  2 $E1 $895C5F . Piper
> >>> 80 $F1 $D512FB . Pipe
> >>>  9 $C1 $9A36A3 . Clock
> >>>  1 $21 $5833D2 . Clock2
> >>>
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> >>>
> >>>> On Fri, Oct 6, 2017 at 8:06 AM, Dave Philipsen <dave at davebiz.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I would like to do some experiments with this on a real CoCo 3, too.
> >> I'm
> >>>> using the CoCo3FPGA right now.  It's much easier for me to test things
> >> on
> >>>> this platform because I have the ability to boot with an alternate
> >> bootfile
> >>>> just by holding down the ALT key while booting.  I can make changes to
> >> the
> >>>> OS9Boot.1 file while still retaining the original OS9Boot file.  Also,
> >>>> because of Brett's bootloader, I don't have to do anything special to
> >>>> generate the bootfile.  I just merge all of the modules needed and the
> >>>> bootloader will load it no matter if it's fragmented or where it
> >> resides on
> >>>> the disk structure.
> >>>>
> >>>> Dave
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> On 10/6/2017 7:50 AM, Aaron Wolfe wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> We ran into the same issue when creating the headless Drivewire disks
> >> some
> >>>>> years ago.  If the boot file became too small, things went badly.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Unfortunately Boisy solved this in our case so I can't give you
> >> specifics.
> >>>>> Not sure if he still monitors this list, fairly sure he intended to
> >> patch
> >>>>> the nitros9 source to correct the bug. Perhaps the fix got lost or
> was
> >> not
> >>>>> comprehensive.  In any case, I can confirm a third case where small
> >> boot
> >>>>> file became an issue in itself.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -Aaron
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Oct 6, 2017 8:35 AM, "Neal Crook" <foofoobedoo at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> In my mc09 l2 development I found a bug where a too - small bootfile
> >> would
> >>>>> hang. Padding it fixed the problem. I will look out the details over
> >> the
> >>>>> weekend and let you know, so we can see if our experiences tally. It
> >> would
> >>>>> be good to know that it was a generic problem and not specific to my
> >>>>> target
> >>>>> hardware. I spent quite a lot of time in emulation trying to track it
> >> down
> >>>>> without success
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Neal
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 6 Oct 2017 12:40, "Dave Philipsen" <dave at davebiz.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Haha!  That doesn't work either.  But as soon as I re-assemble Term
> >> with
> >>>>> 265 extra bytes in it, it boots just fine.  So it really does appear
> >> to be
> >>>>> an issue with size and not order.
> >>>>
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