[Coco] NitrOS9 question

Dave Philipsen dave at davebiz.com
Fri Oct 6 00:48:50 EDT 2017


Ok, but this might be an interesting test.  My OS9Boot file is normally 
$78E1 bytes long.  My new slimmed down module is exactly $4401 bytes in 
length.  Even one byte shorter than that and I can't get a shell on my 
serial terminal.


Dave



On 10/5/2017 11:41 PM, Bill Pierce via Coco wrote:
> Dave, there's not a headless build for Coco3FPGA, but I guess I should add one. Actually, one of each type... DW & 6551 as well as a setup for headless with SD boot.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Philipsen <dave at davebiz.com>
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> Subject: Re: [Coco] NitrOS9 question
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> Maybe I should try one of the headless builds.  Is there one for CoCo3FPGA?DaveOn 10/5/2017 9:35 PM, David Ladd wrote:> Dave,>> That is odd.>> >From what I can see in the repo the same SHELL is used for even the> headless builds.>> If I can find a working Deluxe RS232 Pak.  I will see if I can get it> working on my real CoCo 3.>> +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+> | David Ladd a.k.a. PacoOtaktay a.k.a. Drencor                          |> | YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/user/PacoOtaktay                      |> | YouTube Gaming Live: https://gaming.youtube.com/user/PacoOtaktay/live |> | Websites: http://dwladd.com     &     http://www.theterrorzone.com    |> | G+:  https://plus.google.com/113262444659438038657                    |> | G+:  https://plus.google.com/+DavidLaddPacoOtaktay                    |> |           |> | Do you have your CoCo 3 yet?                                          |> +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+>>> On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 9:18 PM, Dave Philipsen <dave at davebiz.com> wrote:>>> Look in nitros9-v3.3.0/level2/defs/Defsfile>>>> See if it's listed there.  It may be of no consequence though. Interesting>> thing is that I can tell sysgo to run another program on startup instead of>> shell and it will run.  The only way I can get shell to run is if I include>> VTIO in the bootfile.>>>> Dave>>>>>>>> On 10/5/2017 9:00 PM, Bill Pierce via Coco wrote:>>>>> Dave, where did you get your sources? I have searched the entire>>> repository for "systype" and found nothing. I remember systype from vanilla>>> OS9, but I don't think it's used anymore.>>> The current VTIO source does reference "cocovtio.d" though.>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill Pierce>>> "Charlie stole the handle, and the train it won't stop going, no way to>>> slow down!" - Ian Anderson - Jethro Tull>>>>>> My Music from the Tandy/Radio Shack Color Computer 2 & 3>>> https://sites.google.com/site/dabarnstudio/>>> Co-Contributor, Co-Editor for CocoPedia>>> http://www.cocopedia.c
> om/wiki/index.php/Main_Page>>>>>> E-Mail: ooogalapasooo at aol.com>>>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message----->>> From: Dave Philipsen <dave at davebiz.com>>>> To: coco <coco at maltedmedia.com>>>> Sent: Thu, Oct 5, 2017 6:00 pm>>> Subject: Re: [Coco] NitrOS9 question>>>>>> Ok, so now I am delving in to vtio.asm and I've hit another brick wall.>>> I thought I had all of the files required to build NitrOS9 but I see a>>> reference to a file called "systype" in the defsfile. My defsfile only>>> references os9defs, rbfdefs, scfdefs, and cocodefs.  Where do I find the>>> systype file?  Perhaps it contains the refrerence for SHFTCLR and>>> ohers.DaveOn 10/5/2017 4:12 PM, David Ladd wrote:> Dave,>> I have not tried>>> NitrOS-9 L2 as a headless configuration yet.  Looking at> the headless>>> section in the build process for the NitrOS-9 Project.  I> don't see the>>> keyboard, joy, or snd driver in the headless area so that is> a good sign.>>> I do see a scdwv.dr and term_scdwv.dt which tells me that you> probably can>>> use the term_sc6551.dt and sc6551.dr.>> I myself can not verify this as my>>> CoCo3FPGA is not in working condition> right now.  As soon as I get my>>> Analog board back I will certainly try some> of this out.>>>>> +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+>>>> | David Ladd a.k.a. PacoOtaktay a.k.a. Drencor                          |>>>> | YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/user/PacoOtaktay>>> |> | YouTube Gaming Live: https://gaming.youtube.com/use>>> r/PacoOtaktay/live |> | Websites: http://dwladd.com     &>>> http://www.theterrorzone.com    |> | G+:  https://plus.google.com/113262>>> 444659438038657                    |> | G+:>>> https://plus.google.com/+DavidLaddPacoOtaktay                    |> |>>>         |> | Do you have your CoCo 3 yet?>>>        |> +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 5, 2017 at 2:25 PM, Dave Philipsen <dave at davebiz.com>>>> wrote:>>> Ummm....I shouldn't need to.  I've defined T2 as the default>>> console in>>
> Init.>>>> In fact, as I'm writing this I just tried adding>>> Term back into the>> bootfile and I still have the same problem.  I get the>>> Init and sysgo>> sign-on banners but the shell is not chained.>>>>>>>>> Dave>>>>>>>> On 10/5/2017 2:04 PM, David Ladd wrote:>>>>> Dave,>>>>>>>>> I think you still need a TERM descriptor?  Though in this case you>>>>>> probably>>> need a TERM descriptor based on T2?>>>>>>>>> +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+>>>>>> | David Ladd a.k.a. PacoOtaktay a.k.a. Drencor>>> |>>> | YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/user/PacoOtaktay>>>      |>>> | YouTube Gaming Live: https://gaming.youtube.com/use>>> r/PacoOtaktay/live |>>> | Websites: http://dwladd.com     &>>> http://www.theterrorzone.com    |>>> | G+:>>> https://plus.google.com/113262444659438038657                    |>>> |>>> G+:  https://plus.google.com/+DavidLaddPacoOtaktay>>> |>>> |    |>>> | Do you have your CoCo 3 yet?>>>              |>>> +----------------------------->>> ------------------------------------------+>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 5, 2017>>> at 1:16 PM, Dave Philipsen <dave at davebiz.com> wrote:>>>>>> Ok, so I've>>> successfully eliminated CoWin, KeyDrv, SndDrv, JoyDrv, RBDW,>>>> DWIO,>>> RAMD, R0, and Term from my bootfile and the CoCo3FPGA boots up>>>> with>>> a>>>> shell on T2.  But, when I try to remove VTIO I get the signon>>> message>>>> from>>>> Init on T2 but I don't get a shell.  To my knowledge>>> VTIO is simply a>>>> device driver module for the SCF window devices.  If I>>> have no window>>>> device descriptors in the bootfile, then, why is VTIO>>> needed?  See output>>>> from 'mdir' below:>>>>>>>>>>>> KrnP2       Init>>>      Clock    Clock2      IOMan       RBF>>>> SCF         PipeMan>>>   RBSuper     LLCoCo3FPGA Piper SD1>>>> DD          SC6551      VTIO>>> T2          Pipe CCBKrn>>>> MDir        Shell       Date        DeIniz>>> Echo Iniz>>>> Link     Load  Save        Unlink>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dave>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/3/2017 11:12 PM, Dave Philipsen>>> wrote:>>>>>>>> Y
> ep, it's an FPGA board so it's a synthesized 6809 running>>> at 25 MHz.>>>>> Dave>>>>>>>>>> On 10/3/2017 9:23 PM, Brett Gordon>>> wrote:>>>>>>>>>> I take it your platform is also 6809 based? Cool.. Sounds>>> like a neat>>>>>> idea.  Loads of fun.  kudos on the>>> bootloader mod - submit patch!>>>>>>>>>>>> brett>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -->>>> Coco mailing list>>>> Coco at maltedmedia.com>>>>>>> https://pairlist5.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/coco>>>>>>>>>> -->> Coco>>> mailing list>> Coco at maltedmedia.com>> https://pairlist5.pair.net/mai>>> lman/listinfo/coco>>-- Coco mailing listCoco at maltedmedia.comhttps://>>> pairlist5.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/coco>>>>>>>>>> -->> Coco mailing list>> Coco at maltedmedia.com>> https://pairlist5.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/coco>>-- Coco mailing listCoco at maltedmedia.comhttps://pairlist5.pair.net/mailman/listinfo/coco
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