[Coco] CB, ECB, DECB, & SECB

Arthur Flexser flexser at fiu.edu
Sun Jun 11 15:25:07 EDT 2017


I prefer Super Extended Basic myself, simply because the name kind of stuck
after the Unravelled volume came out.

Art

On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 3:19 PM, Wayne Campbell <asa.rand at gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks, David. I just thought I remembered such a name and decided to throw
> it out there. Yes, I believe it is a matter of what the users as a whole
> think. As for me, any of the 3 will do, but I sort like the Super version.
> Makess it sound like it's souped up.
>
> On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 10:39 AM, David Ladd <davidwladd at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Wayne,
> >
> > That is for sure a possible name.  Though the enhanced that was in front
> of
> > the Extended Color Basic was lower case so i don't think they intended
> the
> > enhanced to be part of the name.  Though after all these years I guess it
> > comes to what the majority want to call it.
> >
> > Kinda like ain't didn't use to be in the dictionary, but now it is.  Just
> > depends on how much the masses use it or want to use something on a
> > specific way. (*shrug*)
> >
> > So overall I guess from my point of view is what does the masses want it
> > called?  Do we want it called Super Extended Color Basic? Or maybe
> Wayne's
> > idea of Enhanced Extended Color Basic?  Or Extended Color Basic V2? lol.
> > We have so many options. :D
> >
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> > On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 8:17 AM, Wayne Campbell <asa.rand at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > EECB = Enhanced Extended Color Basic?
> > >
> > > On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 11:31 PM, David Ladd <davidwladd at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Art,
> > > >
> > > > I looked at the PDF of the original manual that came with the CoCo 3.
> > It
> > > > refers to the updated basic in the CoCo 3 as "Extended Color Basic
> > > Version
> > > > 2".  I did not see anywhere where I read a reference to Super
> Extended
> > > > Color Basic.
> > > >
> > > > My opinion it is probably something the group adopted to make it
> easier
> > > to
> > > > distinguesh between the Extended Basic 1.x on the CoCo 1 & 2's verses
> > the
> > > > expanded command set in the Extended Basic 2.x on the CoCo 3.
> > Otherwise
> > > if
> > > > you were to look at it probably should be named what???? ECBv2?
> > > (*shrug*)
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> > > > On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 8:42 PM, Arthur Flexser <flexser at fiu.edu>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > That doesn't match my recollection, but perhaps someone here has
> that
> > > > > booklet and can say whether or not it used the term Super Extended
> > > Color
> > > > > Basic.
> > > > >
> > > > > Art
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 7:42 PM, Camillus Blockx <
> > > > camillus.b.58 at gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I do think it was on the booklet that came with the Coco 3
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cb
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Jun 10, 2017 5:20 PM, "Arthur Flexser" <flexser at fiu.edu>
> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > ...which brings up the question of whether the term Super
> > Extended
> > > > > Color
> > > > > > > Basic is in fact the official Tandy designation or not.  I
> first
> > > saw
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > term in the title of Spectral Associates' Super Extended Basic
> > > > > > Unravelled.
> > > > > > > I have not seen it in anything from Tandy, and the term does
> not
> > > > appear
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > > the CoCo 3 startup screen.  Then again, Spectral Associates
> have
> > > > worked
> > > > > > > with Tandy on various things, and I heard from somewhere long
> ago
> > > > that
> > > > > > they
> > > > > > > were given one of the CoCo 3 prototypes for development
> purposes,
> > > so
> > > > I
> > > > > > > suspect that the term was at least unofficially used within
> > > Tandy.  I
> > > > > > don't
> > > > > > > see the name mentioned in Bill and Boisy's CoCo history book.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Art
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 5:58 PM, Camillus Blockx <
> > > > > > camillus.b.58 at gmail.com>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Only Super I know is Super Extended Color Basic (Cc3)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Jun 10, 2017 12:42 AM, "Wayne Campbell" <
> asa.rand at gmail.com
> > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > If I have it correctly:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > CB = Color Basic by Microsoft
> > > > > > > > > ECB = Extended Color Basic by Microsoft) OS-9 had to be
> > > launched
> > > > by
> > > > > > > > running
> > > > > > > > > a file on the OS-9 boot floppy
> > > > > > > > > SCB = Super Ciolor Basic by Microsoft and Microware (CoCo 3
> > > only,
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > has
> > > > > > > > > DOS command for launching OS-9)
> > > > > > > > > DECB = Disk Extended Color Basic by Microsoft (two
> versions,
> > > 1.1
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > 1.2)
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I think that is all of them.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 10:21 PM, Salvador Garcia via Coco <
> > > > > > > > > coco at maltedmedia.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I think I found some information. SECB is Super Extended
> > > Color
> > > > > > BASIC
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > was released with the CoCo 3, and included software
> > licensed
> > > by
> > > > > > > > > Microware.
> > > > > > > > > > The "equivalent" BASIC on previous models did not have y
> > > > > Microware
> > > > > > > > code.
> > > > > > > > > > Is the ROM BASIC list complete as presented in the
> subject
> > > > line?
> > > > > > > > > > Salvador
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >       From: Salvador Garcia via Coco <
> coco at maltedmedia.com
> > >
> > > > > > > > > >  To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts <
> > > > > coco at maltedmedia.com
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Cc: Salvador Garcia <salvadorgarciav at yahoo.com>
> > > > > > > > > >  Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 12:14 AM
> > > > > > > > > >  Subject: [Coco] CB, ECB, DECB, & SECB
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >  These are:
> > > > > > > > > > Color BASICExtended Color BASICDisk Extended Color BASIC
> > > > > > > > > > Not sure what SECB is... Super, Supreme, Superior... ?
> > > > > > > > > > If I understand correctly, these are all the ROMs that
> were
> > > > > > released
> > > > > > > by
> > > > > > > > > > Tandy/Radio Shack in the Color Computer.Is that correct?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Thanks! Salvador
> > > > > > > > > >
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