[Coco] CB, ECB, DECB, & SECB

Arthur Flexser flexser at fiu.edu
Sun Jun 11 02:59:42 EDT 2017 

Now that I look, I see that the Unravelled book is titled Super Extended
Basic Unravelled, without the "Color".  That's a much less clunky name, and
more likely to have been how the developers referred to it informally.

Art

On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 2:44 AM, Arthur Flexser <flexser at fiu.edu> wrote:

> I've had a sneaking suspicion that perhaps Spectral Associates coined the
> term so as to have something for the title of the relevant Unravelled
> volume, lacking any generally agreed upon name for SECB.  Or, maybe that's
> what they referred to it as informally at Microware when it was under
> development.  Perhaps it originated with one of the guys in the 3 Mugateers
> graphic.
>
> Art
>
> On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 2:31 AM, David Ladd <davidwladd at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Art,
>>
>> I looked at the PDF of the original manual that came with the CoCo 3.  It
>> refers to the updated basic in the CoCo 3 as "Extended Color Basic Version
>> 2".  I did not see anywhere where I read a reference to Super Extended
>> Color Basic.
>>
>> My opinion it is probably something the group adopted to make it easier to
>> distinguesh between the Extended Basic 1.x on the CoCo 1 & 2's verses the
>> expanded command set in the Extended Basic 2.x on the CoCo 3.  Otherwise
>> if
>> you were to look at it probably should be named what???? ECBv2?  (*shrug*)
>>
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>> On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 8:42 PM, Arthur Flexser <flexser at fiu.edu> wrote:
>>
>> > That doesn't match my recollection, but perhaps someone here has that
>> > booklet and can say whether or not it used the term Super Extended Color
>> > Basic.
>> >
>> > Art
>> >
>> > On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 7:42 PM, Camillus Blockx <
>> camillus.b.58 at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > I do think it was on the booklet that came with the Coco 3
>> > >
>> > > Cb
>> > >
>> > > On Jun 10, 2017 5:20 PM, "Arthur Flexser" <flexser at fiu.edu> wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > ...which brings up the question of whether the term Super Extended
>> > Color
>> > > > Basic is in fact the official Tandy designation or not.  I first saw
>> > the
>> > > > term in the title of Spectral Associates' Super Extended Basic
>> > > Unravelled.
>> > > > I have not seen it in anything from Tandy, and the term does not
>> appear
>> > > in
>> > > > the CoCo 3 startup screen.  Then again, Spectral Associates have
>> worked
>> > > > with Tandy on various things, and I heard from somewhere long ago
>> that
>> > > they
>> > > > were given one of the CoCo 3 prototypes for development purposes,
>> so I
>> > > > suspect that the term was at least unofficially used within Tandy.
>> I
>> > > don't
>> > > > see the name mentioned in Bill and Boisy's CoCo history book.
>> > > >
>> > > > Art
>> > > >
>> > > > On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 5:58 PM, Camillus Blockx <
>> > > camillus.b.58 at gmail.com>
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > Only Super I know is Super Extended Color Basic (Cc3)
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Jun 10, 2017 12:42 AM, "Wayne Campbell" <asa.rand at gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > > > If I have it correctly:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > CB = Color Basic by Microsoft
>> > > > > > ECB = Extended Color Basic by Microsoft) OS-9 had to be
>> launched by
>> > > > > running
>> > > > > > a file on the OS-9 boot floppy
>> > > > > > SCB = Super Ciolor Basic by Microsoft and Microware (CoCo 3
>> only,
>> > and
>> > > > has
>> > > > > > DOS command for launching OS-9)
>> > > > > > DECB = Disk Extended Color Basic by Microsoft (two versions, 1.1
>> > and
>> > > > 1.2)
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > I think that is all of them.
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 10:21 PM, Salvador Garcia via Coco <
>> > > > > > coco at maltedmedia.com> wrote:
>> > > > > >
>> > > > > > > I think I found some information. SECB is Super Extended Color
>> > > BASIC
>> > > > > and
>> > > > > > > was released with the CoCo 3, and included software licensed
>> by
>> > > > > > Microware.
>> > > > > > > The "equivalent" BASIC on previous models did not have y
>> > Microware
>> > > > > code.
>> > > > > > > Is the ROM BASIC list complete as presented in the subject
>> line?
>> > > > > > > Salvador
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >       From: Salvador Garcia via Coco <coco at maltedmedia.com>
>> > > > > > >  To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts <
>> > coco at maltedmedia.com
>> > > >
>> > > > > > > Cc: Salvador Garcia <salvadorgarciav at yahoo.com>
>> > > > > > >  Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 12:14 AM
>> > > > > > >  Subject: [Coco] CB, ECB, DECB, & SECB
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > >  These are:
>> > > > > > > Color BASICExtended Color BASICDisk Extended Color BASIC
>> > > > > > > Not sure what SECB is... Super, Supreme, Superior... ?
>> > > > > > > If I understand correctly, these are all the ROMs that were
>> > > released
>> > > > by
>> > > > > > > Tandy/Radio Shack in the Color Computer.Is that correct?
>> > > > > > >
>> > > > > > > Thanks! Salvador
>> > > > > > >
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