[Coco] ROM Copyrights... copyrights in general...

[Salvador Garcia]

Wayne, I wholeheartedly commend you on your bravery to deal with MS Support. Not many go down this path and come back with their sanity intact.

I will nominate you for an award for next's year's CoCoFEST!

Salvador




      From: Wayne Campbell <asa.rand at gmail.com>
 To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts <coco at maltedmedia.com> 
 Sent: Wednesday, June 7, 2017 11:40 PM
 Subject: Re: [Coco] ROM Copyrights... copyrights in general...
   
I am currently in a chat with Microsoft support to see if I can find out
what they want to give us permission to use the ROMs in emulators. I will
post here when I have an answer. So far, the conversation looks like this:

OK
Hello Wayne!
How may I help you today?
Your case reference for today’s session: 1388097493. Please make note of
this number for future use.
I am nhere to find out what can be done, if anything, to enable us (the
remaining Color Computer/Dragon users) to use the ROM codes from the
original machines in emulators that are available.
Wayne, can you please explain me the issue more?
I am just trained on download, install and activate of Windows and Office
products, if you want I can connect you with our Windows technical team.
Well, the computers haven't been made since the 1980s. The Color Computer 3
stopped being sold in about 1990-93. There are emulators that have been
made to emulate the hardware, but without the ROM code they are useless. We
would like to know what Microsoft would want to give us permission to use
the ROM code from those computers in the emulators that are out there.
ROM, its an hardware which is not attached with Microsoft.
Are you referring to the activation code for Windows?
No. On the old 8-bit computers, the basic language that you saw when you
turned on the computer was stored in a ROM chip. The Color Computer and
Dragon computer used a ROM licensed from Microsoft.
The languages were called Color BASIC, Extended Color BASIC and Enhanced
Color BASIC
Let me check with my supervisor, please wait for some time.
I will wait


On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 8:41 PM, Bill Pierce via Coco <coco at maltedmedia.com>
wrote:

> Thanks Dennis, I thought I was right on this.
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> From: Dennis Bathory-Kitsz <bathory at maltedmedia.com>
> To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts <coco at maltedmedia.com>
> Sent: Wed, Jun 7, 2017 10:57 pm
> Subject: Re: [Coco] ROM Copyrights... copyrights in general...
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> On Wed, June 7, 2017 9:26 pm, Bill Pierce via Coco wrote:> Something no
> one has yet to mention or clarify (Dennis?)...> I've always "heard" that if
> you own the original roms, you have the right to> make copies for your own
> personal use... I have no clue if this is true. I> know it did apply to
> making tape and CD copies of albums I own, but ONLY for> personal use.>
> "IF" this is true, then many of us have the legal right to have and use
> copies> of the roms (no, this doesn't cover uploading/downloading "illegal"
> copies).> Personally, I own all versions of CB, ECB, DECB, & SECB. I even
> have copies of> CB & ECB (1.01?) on RS cassette tape (factory labeled, and
> bought from RS as> an upgrade).{All my copyright comments are US only)Since
> the Sony Betamax case, the courts have held that a copy of any item foryour
> personal use is allowable. You must legally own the original. You
> mustdestroy the copy if you give away, sell or otherwise dispose of the
> original.Not legal advice.Dennis-- Coco mailing
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