[Coco] Basic09 versions

Wed Jun 7 22:01:53 EDT 2017

I have been doing comparisons of the versions of Basic09. The differences
between Level 2 and 6809 are so many that it will take me a while to create
that document. I am speaking of differences in the code in the modules. I
compared 6809 and 6309, and again, the differences are so many that it will
take me a while to compile that document. There are more differences
between Level 1 and Dragon than there are between Level 1 and Level 2.

I started looking at the RunB modules. Level 1 and Dragon are identical
(down to the RS VERSION 01.00.00 and LICENSED TO TANDY CORP. in the
copyright display). I do not know if this is right, or if someone made a
copy of the RS Level 1 system disk available thinking it was the dragon
Level 1 system disk. Does anyone have a copy of the Dragon level 1 system
disk that they can look at? If so, RunB is in the CMDS directory on that
disk. Please do a dump and tell me what the copyright notice says. I need
to verify if Dragon Data/Tano used a copy of the RS system disk with the
Dragon, or if someone made a mistake.

Thanks,

On Wed, Jun 7, 2017 at 8:04 AM, Salvador Garcia via Coco <
coco at maltedmedia.com> wrote:

> For anyone interested, I found this other auction:
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/TRS-80-Color-Computer-Basic09-for-
> the-OS-9-Operating-System-/222530695738
>
>
> Salvador
>
>
>
>       From: Wayne Campbell <asa.rand at gmail.com>
>  To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts <coco at maltedmedia.com>
>  Sent: Wednesday, June 7, 2017 12:37 AM
>  Subject: Re: [Coco] Basic09 versions
>
> I bought the copy on ebay. It should be here on the 15th. It will be put
> away so no damage occurs to it. If/when I have a chance, I will scan the
> manual and other paperwork that comes with it and make a pdf of it.
>
> On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 10:12 PM, Wayne Campbell <asa.rand at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Seems I heard that serial# 000001 was being auctioned off, and I don't
> > know who bought it. I might be not remembering this correctly.
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 10:09 PM, Dave Philipsen <dave at davebiz.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Yep.  Definitely nostalgic thinking back...it took a lot more work to
> >> find the information / parts you needed.  There are a lot of young
> people
> >> that don't know what the world was like without Google!
> >>
> >> I remember the countless nights coming home to my apartment in Irving,
> TX
> >> crunching away on the code for Supercomm and my RuxPro project
> (programming
> >> system for Teddy Ruxpin that ran under OS9) and others.  I can remember
> my
> >> original RS 300 baud modem with the switch you flipped when you heard
> the
> >> carrier on the other end, and how cool it was to upgrade to 1200 then
> 2400
> >> then 9600 then 14,400 bps modems, etc.  and all the hand-soldered wires,
> >> EPROMs, dot-matrix printers, modifications & stuff like that.
> >>
> >> I may have mentioned this before but I knew a fellow down there who
> owned
> >> a CoCo 1 with serial #000001!  Last time I talked with him a few years
> ago
> >> he still had it...
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Dave
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On 6/6/2017 11:56 PM, Wayne Campbell wrote:
> >>
> >>> Those were the days. You could find just about anything if you looked
> >>> around. Now, even googling doesn't always return positive results.
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 9:48 PM, Dave Philipsen <dave at davebiz.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> The interesting thing is that sometimes I would go down to the
> warehouse
> >>>> and they would have palettes and tables and shelves of discontinued
> >>>> stuff;
> >>>> old manuals, software, computers, gadgets, etc. It was a computer
> geek's
> >>>> dream come true.  I guess that's why I was always stopping in to see
> >>>> what
> >>>> cool stuff they might have.  There was also a big ham/electronics flea
> >>>> market on the first Saturday of every month in Dallas under one of the
> >>>> freeway overpasses where I would buy RAM chips, EPROMs, CPUs, and that
> >>>> sort
> >>>> of thing.  This was circa 1985-1989.
> >>>>
> >>>> Dave
> >>>>
> >>>> On 6/6/2017 11:29 PM, Bill Pierce via Coco wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Wayne, I had 2 copies of L1 Basic09 over time, and I don't remember
> >>>>> either being a flippy. I know RS never did fully support flippies...
> >>>>> then
> >>>>> they'd had to admit their drives were double sided and explain why
> they
> >>>>> never updated Basic for double sides.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Bill Pierce
> >>>>> "Charlie stole the handle, and the train it won't stop going, no way
> to
> >>>>> slow down!" - Ian Anderson - Jethro Tull
> >>>>>
> >>>>> My Music from the Tandy/Radio Shack Color Computer 2 & 3
> >>>>> https://sites.google.com/site/dabarnstudio/
> >>>>> Co-Contributor, Co-Editor for CocoPedia
> >>>>> http://www.cocopedia.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
> >>>>>
> >>>>> E-Mail: ooogalapasooo at aol.com
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> -----Original Message-----
> >>>>> From: Wayne Campbell <asa.rand at gmail.com>
> >>>>> To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts <coco at maltedmedia.com>
> >>>>> Sent: Wed, Jun 7, 2017 12:23 am
> >>>>> Subject: Re: [Coco] Basic09 versions
> >>>>>
> >>>>> That is definitely the Level 1 version. It would be good to have a
> copy
> >>>>> inwhatever repository is current. Can you tell me if you remember
> >>>>> theoriginal floppy being a flippy? I have heard before that it had
> some
> >>>>> fileson the opposite side, but I never thought about that when I had
> my
> >>>>> Level 1system.On Tue, Jun 6, 2017 at 9:01 PM, Bill Pierce via Coco <
> >>>>> coco at maltedmedia.com>wrote:> Wayne, I have a disk image labeled
> >>>>> "Basic09_1.0.0.dsk", and on it are> BASIC09, INKEY, RUNB, & GFX (no
> >>>>> directories). When run it displays (level> 1, hence all uppercase):>>
> >>>>> BASIC09> RS VERSION 01.00.00> COPYRIGHT 1980 BY MOTOROLA INC.> AND
> >>>>> MICROWARE SYSTEMS CORP.> REPRODUCED UNDER LICENSE> TO TANDY CORP.>
> ALL
> >>>>> RIGHTS RESERVED>> I'm pretty sure it's the same one you are referring
> >>>>> to. I
> >>>>> remember SYSCALL> was in the manual and you had to assemble it with
> asm
> >>>>> yourself.>> I probably copied the disk image from my master disk
> >>>>> before my
> >>>>> drives went> out.> I can upload the disk to Guillaume if needed.>>>>
> >>>>> The
> >>>>> manual is already in the colorcomputerarchive:>>
> >>>>> http://www.colorcomputerarchive.com/coco/Documents/Manuals/P
> >>>>> rogramming/>
> >>>>> BASIC09%20Programming%20Language%20Reference%20Manual%20-%20
> >>>>> Revision%20H%>
> >>>>> 20(Microware%20System%20Corp).pdf>> It is copywritten 1980-1984>>>>>
> >>>>> Bill Pierce> "Charlie stole the handle, and the train it won't stop
> >>>>> going,
> >>>>> no way to> slow down!" - Ian Anderson - Jethro Tull>> My Music from
> the
> >>>>> Tandy/Radio Shack Color Computer 2 & 3>
> https://sites.google.com/site/
> >>>>> dabarnstudio/> Co-Contributor, Co-Editor for CocoPedia>
> >>>>> http://www.cocopedia.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page>> E-Mail:
> >>>>> ooogalapasooo at aol.com>>>>>> -----Original Message-----> From: Wayne
> >>>>> Campbell <asa.rand at gmail.com>> To: CoCoList <coco at maltedmedia.com>>
> >>>>> Sent: Tue, Jun 6, 2017 10:02 pm> Subject: [Coco] Basic09 versions>>
> >>>>> For a
> >>>>> long time I have known this, but have not been able to prove it.>
> WhenI
> >>>>> first got into the CoCo it was a CoCo2 Korean model and OS-9 Level
> 1.>
> >>>>> Ialso had the Level 1 Basic09. When I got my CoCo3 and OS-9 Level 2,>
> >>>>> Icompared the two versions of Basic09. T
> >>>>> here were only 3 differences.Level> 14K default buffer size01.00.00
> >>>>> version number in the display text at the> top of the moduleCRC was
> >>>>> not the
> >>>>> same as Level 2 Basic09Level 28K default> buffer size01.00.01 version
> >>>>> number in the display text at the top of the> moduleCRC was not the
> >>>>> same as
> >>>>> Level 1 Basic09I have never found a disk> image of the Level 1
> Basic09
> >>>>> disk. It was soldseparately from OS-9 Level 1.> I have found the
> Dragon
> >>>>> version of Basic09Level 1 (version 01.00.00), but> it has a different
> >>>>> display text from theCoCo version.I had all but given up> hope of
> ever
> >>>>> finding a copy of the CoCo Basic09Level 1 disk (or an image).> Today
> I
> >>>>> was
> >>>>> thinking about it, and decided toso some searching. Lo and> behold, I
> >>>>> found
> >>>>> what appears to be a pristinecopy for sale on EBay. The> description
> >>>>> says
> >>>>> "untested", but the disk andmanual and box look brand new!> There
> are 3
> >>>>> photos. The middle photo is acloseup of the disk in its sleeve.> The
> >>>>> lower
> >>>>> left portion of the exposeddisk shows the version number> 01.00.00.I
> >>>>> want
> >>>>> this! It is for sale for $89.99 or best offer, and the> shipping
> isonly
> >>>>> $3.61. I have enough cash, but I don't have a credit card.> There are
> >>>>> 5people watching it, and the time left is 19 days, 20 hours. No> one
> >>>>> has
> >>>>> madean offer yet. If I can get my friend to use his card, I am> going
> >>>>> to
> >>>>> buy ittoday. Once I have it, I will need to know if someone on> this
> >>>>> list
> >>>>> is herein Los Angeles and can make an image of the disk, and>
> possibly
> >>>>> scan
> >>>>> themanual without destroying it. Then I can add them to the> archive
> >>>>> and
> >>>>> wewill have the original Basic09 and manual to go with the> Level 1
> >>>>> system.Wish me luck on getting it!-- WayneThe Structure of>
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