[Coco] Message Threading

[Gene Heskett]

On Wednesday 09 August 2017 14:14:07 Dave Philipsen wrote:

> Just something interesting that I've seen:  It appears that the latest
> version of Thunderbird acts a little differently (for me) than in the
> past.  In the past, if I were simply to reply to a message on this
> forum Thunderbird would automatically know that I'm replying to the
> list and use the list email address to send it. Now, it seems that I
> must specifically click on 'Reply List' because 'Reply' simply replies
> to the sender.
>
> Since I am used to just clicking on 'Reply' and letting the email
> client figure it out for me, sometimes I do that and then realize that
> I am not sending to the list and then I'll go and change the 'To:'
> line.  I don't know if this ever affects the way the messages end up
> getting parsed as far as threads are concerned.
>
> Another thing to remember is there are guys (like me) who do not
> choose to read their email with the thread-sorting turned on. We just 
> read each message as it comes through to the list.

Count me in that category.  As a kmail user, I have 3 reply buttons, one 
that replies to the sender if that can be figured out, one that replies 
to all, and one that replies to the mailing list only IF I have an 
option set in that "folder"s properties that says "folder contains a 
mailing list".

And as a convenience, the From: display may show the posters address, or 
the mailing list address or both. I can generate a reply, addressed 
accordingly by clicking on either of those addresses.  That I do not 
believe maintains the threading so I often use it to open a new message 
to the clicked on address.

All this is the result of nearly 20 years of using the same Mail agent, 
so it has accumulated quite a layer of dross on top.

If I am one of those "offenders", please advise.

> So to say that 
> it's rude to change the subject in the middle of a thread is perhaps a
> little extreme (since many of us may care or know little about threads
> in general).  Also, it was suggested that changing subjects in a
> 'real' eye-to-eye conversation is rude too.  But in my experience
> that's not the case.  Casual conversations regularly morph to
> different subjects as they progress and we think nothing of it.  You
> could start talking about the weather and end up talking about Kim
> Jung Un two or three minutes later.
>
> So the way I see it is this:  The thread sorting/organizing is
> something that is done automatically behind the scenes by some
> computer(s).  We as humans normally converse in ways in which the
> subject continually changes.  To slap some guy's hand for innocently
> changing the subject (perhaps he even thinks he is doing us a favor)
> because he has seen that the subject has indeed changed could be
> construed as rude too.  After all, how is he to know exactly what's
> going on behind the scenes?
>
> By the way, I'm not the one Tormod has counseled about this and I
> don't believe I have changed subjects on a regular basis but I do
> remember one or two times having done it in the past.
>
> Dave
>
> On 8/9/2017 12:07 PM, Mark D. Overholser wrote:
> > On 09-Aug-17 09:06, Mark J. Blair wrote:
> >>> On Aug 9, 2017, at 7:29 AM, John W. Linville
> >>> <linville at tuxdriver.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> So, just for clarity -- if you Reply to an existing message and
> >>> then change the Subject, you are not starting a new thread. In
> >>> this case you are literallly just "changing the subject" in the
> >>> middle of an ongoing conversation. That is rude both in real life
> >>> and in email on the Internet.
> >>
> >> I agree that doing so is rude and annoying. I'm also observing the
> >> opposite issue, though. For example, the subject "Booting OS9 on my
> >> CoCo 3" is presently appearing broken up into three threads in my
> >> MUA. I'm using Mail under macOS. Is my MUA broken in the way it
> >> combines messages into threads, or is something else happening
> >> that's making Mail thread messages in a correct but undesirable
> >> way?
> >
> > I am seeing a similar Issue, but see the Thread, "[Coco] Booting OS9
> > on my CoCo 3"  in Four Threads, with the Head starting under "[Coco]
> > GCC6809 cross compiler, assembler & linker"...
> >
> > I am using Thunderbird under Windows and Mac OS X.
> >
> >
> > MarkO


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