[Coco] Looking for Glenside IDE Controller documentation

Wed May 25 20:23:53 EDT 2016

Hi Camillus,

Thanks again for loaning me the card!  I'm going to see if I can finally
get John's Cocovid player working on a real Coco 3.  If you decide to sell
the card, please let me know.

Thanks!!

-Ron

On Wed, May 25, 2016 at 7:01 PM, Camillus <camillus.b.58 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Ron,
>
> If you need those connectors for your project then go ahead. It will
> probably end up in your possession anyway.
>
>
> CB
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> On 5/25/2016 6:55:04 PM, Ron Klein <ron at kdomain.org> wrote:
> Hi Bill,
>
> I just received my "loaner" Glenside IDE controller and see what you mean
> about the cart headers on the board. There looks to be 2 of them and
> neither are populated. Since this is a board I'm borrowing, I will not add
> them to it. I see the address jumper you are talking about (it's currently
> set to FF70). I also see a jumper labeled "L1" though it's open right
> now. No idea what that is for. The board itself is labeled "IDE HD
> INTERFACE REV 1.0"
>
> It looks like I will need to use an MPI for now. Not a big deal, other
> than the additional desk space and power requirements.
>
> Thanks
>
> -Ron
>
>
>
> On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 12:35 PM, Ron Klein wrote:
>
> > Hi Bill,
> >
> > I appreciate you responding and trying to get in touch with Brian for me.
> > I had heard he was the person to talk to about the Glenside controllers
> and
> > sent him a private email on May 20th, but have not received a response.
> > Hopefully he will respond and have some good news about controller
> > availability.
> >
> > I'm glad to hear there is some updated documentation, it's just a matter
> > of getting it now. Everything you said makes sense and I especially like
> > the idea that the interface that's being "loaned" to me (thanks
> Camillus!)
> > may have a second cart connector so I won't have to bust out an MPI. I'll
> > know soon as it's on its way to me, though I would still like to acquire
> a
> > controller for myself. If I may ask, could you please share the
> > documentation and disk if you are able to obtain it?
> >
> > Thanks again for the info!
> >
> > -Ron
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 10:16 AM, Bill Pierce via Coco
> > coco at maltedmedia.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Ron, I have sent an email to Brian Goers who is heading up the Glenside
> >> IDE project. He posted a while back that a new setup disk and
> documentation
> >> was available, but never posted any links. I think he's been busy with
> >> other stuff and hasn't been monitoring the list much lately so he
> probably
> >> didn't see your request. Maybe he'll get back to me soon. I have a
> Glenside
> >> IDE and would like the new disk and docs as well.
> >>
> >> BTW, yes, there's a jumper to select between xFF50 and xFF70 range to
> >> avoid conflicts with other carts. I use mine with an MPI and FD-502
> >> controller and it works well (along with MIDIpak & Orch90 carts).
> >>
> >> The setup disk "should" help in setting up the drivers/descriptors as
> >> well as partitions. The old software did this but was out of date and
> >> didn't match the new SuperDriver for NitrOS9. I had to modify my
> >> descriptors manually to get them to work. From what I read, this has
> been
> >> resolved and the new setup software should be NitrOS9 3.3.0 compatible.
> >>
> >> The cool thing about the Glenside IDE are the 2 headers on the board for
> >> plugging in 2 carts. This was including as extra and may or may not be
> on
> >> your board. The holes for the headers are present, but the header
> >> connectors themselves were optional. Mine can with one installed and the
> >> second blank so I can plug the IDE board into a Coco with no MPI and
> also
> >> plug a disk controller into the board :-)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Bill Pierce
> >> "Charlie stole the handle, and the train it won't stop going, no way to
> >> slow down!" - Ian Anderson - Jethro Tull
> >>
> >>
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Ron Klein
> >> To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts
> >> Sent: Tue, May 24, 2016 10:01 am
> >> Subject: Re: [Coco] Looking for Glenside IDE Controller documentation
> >>
> >> Hi Jim,I wasn't exactly sure. I figured there must be some documentation
> >> thatexplains how to use it in OS-9/NitroOS9, base address configuration
> (if
> >> youare using it along side of a floppy controller), etc.. Not even sure
> >> ifthere are any jumpers on the board as I don't have it just yet.
> >> Theschematics might be nice to have for it if you are willing to provide
> >> them.As an FYI for everyone -- I know there are more modern storage
> >> solutionsout there (i.e. CoCoSDC, Drivewire which I use) but needed a
> >> Cloud-9SuperIDE or Glenside IDE controller for use with John Linville's
> >> Cocovidproject. I stumbled across his Cocovid player a few weeks back
> and
> >> wasimmensely impressed it. The idea of playing/streaming videos,
> >> YouTubeclips, movies, etc., on the Coco seemed very cool to me. John's
> >> ability tore-encode videos to use 256 colors was an added bonus (via
> >> artifacts, butthey are all there). Frankly, I'm surprised by the lack of
> >> interest in itas I didn't really see any discussions about it in this
> >> mailing list.In any case, there are many components to the Cocovid
> project,
> >> includingthe requirement of pre-processing video files (under Linux for
> >> now) priorto playing on the Coco. John did provide some basic
> >> documentation, but itcould use some improvements (which I'm working on
> >> now). In fact, I'm alsoworking on porting over the pre-processing
> >> automation to work under Windowsas well.The actual Cocovid player is all
> >> assembly and accesses the Coco hardware ata very low level. John
> developed
> >> project for use with an IDE based harddrive controller, so it's not
> >> compatible with the newer storage devices.There's also the ability to
> use a
> >> hard drive image with MESS (well, MAMEnow), but you lose the artifact
> >> colors so playing these videos on actualCoco hardware is the best
> option.
> >> This is the reason I am looking foreither IDE controller.For now, it's
> >> great as it is and I've really enjoyed working with it!Watching the
> Minions
> >> movie, the original Matrix or even many of Stevie'sCoco game demos from
> >> Youtube is a very surreal experience knowing that it'sall done on a 512k
> >> Coco 3.I'm hoping that others will find an interest in John's Cocovid
> >> player aswell. I plan on sharing all the updated documentation soon
> (after
> >> Johnreviews it) so it will be much easier for folks to get it up and
> >> runningquickly. Perhaps others (with way more talent than I have) might
> >> find away to get it to work with the newer storage solutions and open
> >> thisproject up to an even wider audience.Thanks for allowing me to
> ramble a
> >> bit...-RonOn Mon, May 23, 2016 at 9:56 PM, RETRO Innovations
> >> go4retro at go4retro.com>wrote:> On 5/23/2016 12:41 PM, Ron Klein
> wrote:>>>
> >> Hi everyone,>>>> I was unable to locate any documentation for the IDE
> >> controller on the>> Glenside's Club Coco page. That being said, I don't
> >> know if there was any>> "official" documentation released for it. If
> >> anyone has anything they can>> share, it would be greatly
> appreciated.>>>>
> >> Thank you!>>>> -Ron>>>>> What are you looking for? Someone (I will have
> to
> >> check notes) shared the> schematics with me, and that tells one a lot
> about
> >> the design.>>> Jim>>> --> RETRO Innovations, Contemporary Gear for
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