[Coco] NitrOS9

[Bill Nobel]

Curtis is right,  My opinion Shellplus was broken since day one for wildcarding.  I use ‘ls' and ‘mscopy' extensively nowadays for it’s own wildcarding.

Bill Nobel
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On Dec 11, 2016, at 12:29 AM, L. Curtis Boyle <curtisboyle at sasktel.net<mailto:curtisboyle at sasktel.net>> wrote:

Yep. The command CP supported this style of wildcarding (using the shellplus wildcards), and allow copying, creating just links, etc. But, as I mentioned previously; you were severely limited to how many filenames it could fit to pass onto commands like CP. Other copy commands, like MSCOPY from Sardis, using internal wildcards, had no restrictions, and could copy an entire directory of 100’s /1000’s of files with one command.

L. Curtis Boyle
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On Dec 11, 2016, at 12:14 AM, Dave Philipsen <dave at davebiz.com> wrote:

I'm not using OS9 very much right now but I used to use it a lot. I do use Linux fairly extensively though I don't use the GUI much. From the command line, the meta characters '*' and '?' are very powerful and I'd love to see the same functionality in the OS9 shell.

Just think of how much work it is to replicate "copy * /dd/new_directory" under OS9.

Dave

On Dec 10, 2016, at 11:51 PM, Stephen H. Fischer <SFischer1 at Mindspring.com> wrote:

It was in ShellPlus.

ftp://www.rtsi.com/OS9/OS9_6X09/APPS/ShellPlus_2_1.lzh

Later mods may have broken ShellPlus in ways that could not be fixed.

SHF

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I'm just guessing here but probably the wildcard expansion was not a
part of the 'dir' command.  It was probably built into shell and
therefore would affect anything you type on the command line.

Dave


On 12/10/2016 11:21 PM, Barry Nelson wrote:
On Saturday 10 December 2016 17:01:42 L. Curtis Boyle wrote:

Robert is correct in that some things have changed - the ‘-‘ sign on a
lot of commands is one. TMODE and XMODE are radically different than
the original OS-9 (and if you pull down some older OS-9 programs that
fork out to these commands, they will not work properly without
patching). So, you are correct in that we need some proper
documentation (even just documenting differences/additions would be
helpful). Another issue is that some commands in later NitrOS-9 (DIR
is a prime example for me) have actually gone backwards from original
NitrOS-9. As of version 2.01 of NitrOS-9, DIR had wildcard support
(both * and ?), and extra options for recursive directory searches,
etc. Then, for some unknown (to me) reason, that new “standard
version” disappeared, and it went back to stock OS-9 in functionality,
but with the ‘-‘ now required. And there are other examples like this
as well.
I definitely miss the wildcard expansion. Why was it removed? Especially from a command like dir where no changes are made to the filesystem by the command.



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