[Coco] OT: MS shenanigans, XP, Win10...

[Richard E. Crislip]

On Sun, 4 Oct 2015 13:10:08 -0700
Wayne Campbell <asa.rand at gmail.com> wrote:

> Getting a new(er) computer is my goal. At this time I have no funds
> for it, but when I do I want at least a duo-core computer and I may
> even do away with Windows. XP is the only version of Windows I have
> ever found acceptable. Vista is a piece of junk, and 7 and 8 (from
> what I have seen) are not much better. I imagine 10 is following
> along the same path. I am thinking about Linux, but am so far removed
> from a command line that the CoCo is all the command line I need, and
> I'm even going to set up Multi-Vue when I get back to the CoCo. Until
> I have my financial situation remedied, I am basically not doing
> anything computer-related other than keeping up with this list and
> checking email. Everything else I do is related to working at getting
> a suitable income coming in.
> 
> This laptop is a 2 GHz AMD Sempron and it runs as slow (on a good
> day) as my 1.6 GHz Pentium 4 (the mini tower). Both are Dells. The
> mini-tower is a OptiPlex 240. This laptop is a Vostro 1000. I am not
> saying that the AMD has anything to do with the problems this laptop
> has, but it is the first non-Intel Windows machine I have had, and
> the issues I deal with are enough for me to never want anything but a
> genuine Intel processor ever again. The only two new computers I ever
> had were my CoCo3 (bought new in 1989) and a Mac Quadra 605 (bought
> new in 1994.) The Mac I was happy with, even though it was not top of
> the line, and was obsolete when they made it because the PowerMac was
> introduced at the same time. I have no experience with MacOSX and
> very little with Linux, but feel that either of them are better than
> Windows.
> 
> 
> On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 6:50 AM, Francis Swygert <farna at att.net> wrote:
> 
> > Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2015 07:43:06 -0700
> > From: Wayne Campbell <asa.rand at gmail.com>
> > Subject was: Re: [Coco] VCC Color Computer 3 Emulator v2.0.1 -
> > Public Release(finally!)
> >
> >
> > My XP Pro mini-tower is currently put away. It is SP3 and is as
> > current as it could be when support ended. I have run the system
> > after support ended with no problems. The difference for me was
> > that I ignored MS' attempt to get me to uninstall Microsoft
> > Security Essentials when they pulled that trick. They sent an
> > update that "failed" and said the only fix was to uninstall MSE and
> > reinstall from the site. In effect, this deletes all the
> > definitions accumulated so far and leaves the machine vulnerable.
> > After about 2 weeks, and for the very first time in all my Windows
> > history, a update showed as being ready on the restart icon
> > (instead of the usual shut down icon). When I restarted, the MSE
> > update installed and I began to see the lack of support notices and
> > the MSE icon remained red thereafter. All of my definitions were
> > still intact. I have been using a Vista laptop for awhile now, also
> > with MSE installed. I hate Vista! However, I cannot yet afford an
> > upgrade, and now that Windows 10 is out I wonder how long till 8.1
> > is no longer sold as 7 is now not available. Oh well. At least my
> > XP system is still functional when I need it.
> > ============================================== With the cost of a
> > Windows 8.1 or 10 upgrade ($99 or more, depending on version and
> > media), you might want to consider a newer computer. Well, it might
> > be newer. New Egg has a dual core 2.66 Ghz refurbished computer
> > with 2 GB ram and 80 GB HD for $65 (plus shipping) with Windows 7.
> > There is a free Win10 upgrade until about July 2016 (free upgrade
> > was advertised as being free for one year). Move up to $100 and you
> > get 4GB and twice the HD (160 GB), but about the same speed dual
> > core processor. Depends on the manufacturer and form factor, but
> > you can upgrade both OS and computer for the same price... assuming
> > your current computer is a lesser machine.
> >
> > Best deal might be this one:
> > http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA42K32K8852
> >
> > |   |
> > |   |  |   |   |   |   |   |
> > | HP Compaq 8000 Elite Small Form Factor Desktop PC (...Buy HP
> > Compaq 8000 Elite Small Form Factor Desktop PC (R2/Ready for Reuse)
> > with Intel Core2Quad at 2.66GHz, 4GB RAM, 160GB HD and licensed
> > Windows 7 Ho... | |  |
> > | View on www.newegg.com | Preview by Yahoo |
> > |  |
> > |   |
> >
> >
> > The last time I considered upgrading a computer I had I ended up
> > buying a refurbished unit. After I totaled the price of a modest
> > motherboard, processor (quad core) and memory (too many different
> > types now!), I came out about the same price to get a refurbed HP
> > with the same specs for processor and memory, and a bigger HD.
> > Wasn't worth the time and effort to rebuild the old one. Plus I got
> > Windows 7 at no extra cost -- this was a couple years ago and I was
> > running XP. Still have XP on the old computer... Frank Swygert
> >  Fix-It-Frank Handyman Service
> >  803-604-6548
> >
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> >
> 
> 
> 

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