[Coco] Supercomm fails to load on NitrOS9 lvl 2 on my CoCo 3 with 128K, and a couple of other questions?

Tue Nov 3 23:48:03 EST 2015

Wow, that's cool!   I'm going to have to try this stuff out on my CoCo3FPGA.  I'd really like to load in an IBM-style font and see what the BBSs look like with all of the proper line drawing characters and other stuff.  My even give me some impetus to dust off Supercomm and make some revisions....

Thanks for the leads on the BBSs.  Would I be correct in assuming that they still use x/y/zmodem for transferring files?

Dave Philipsen

> On Nov 3, 2015, at 10:24 PM, Bill Pierce via Coco <coco at maltedmedia.com> wrote:
> 
> Dave, there's pretty much anything you want in an online/telnet BBS if you look for it :-)
> 
> Just a small guide to some telnet BBSs:
> 
> http://www.telnetbbsguide.com/
> 
> It's frequently updated.
> And there are 2 "specifically Coco" BBSs by Coco Users..
> 
> Bill Gordon's "SquareOne BBS" (some Coco stuff)
> http://sq1bbs.com/index.php
> 98.175.102.203:2300
> 
> Phillip Taylor's "CyberChatNet BBS" (tons of Coco stuff)
> http://cyberchatnet.dynu.com/
> 
> 71.68.29.241:23
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Bill Pierce
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Philipsen <dave at davebiz.com>
> To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts <coco at maltedmedia.com>
> Sent: Tue, Nov 3, 2015 10:52 pm
> Subject: Re: [Coco] Supercomm fails to load on NitrOS9 lvl 2 on my CoCo 3 with 128K, and a couple of other questions?
> 
> 
> Yes, Supercomm has always defaulted to /t2 but allows you to connect to any
> other port with the command line option. The 2k buffer with a program size of
> less than 16k makes it very memory efficient. The program was written entirely
> in assembler. At the time I wrote it I tested it against other terminal programs
> and it d/l'd faster than most.  As I recall, the xmodem and ymodem CRCs and
> checksums are computed "on the fly" instead of at the end each block which saves
> a little bit of time between blocks and allows it to send an ACK more quickly
> for the next block. I wrote it because I had pretty much abandoned DECB for OS9
> and, at the time, there were no decent terminal programs that worked with ANSI
> codes.  I was always using Procomm Plus on my PC to connect to BBSs and wanted
> similar functionality under OS9.
> 
> So, a few questions, approximately how many
> 'telnet BBSs' are there running now? Are they simply versions of the old BBS
> systems that are converted to work over the internet?  Do these BBSs mostly use
> the ANSI control codes that were common back in the 80s & 90s?  
> 
> Dave
> Philipsen
> 
>>> On Nov 3, 2015, at 7:55 PM, Bill Pierce via Coco
>> <coco at maltedmedia.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Robert, Yes, Supercomm apparently overrides
> the hard coded descriptor used internally when there is a descriptor on the cmd
> line.
>> Also, I am using the version of Supercomm from the NitrOS9 repo, not the
> original from the archives. I'm not sure if there's a difference or if the Nitro
> version has been modified for this.
>> I have been logging onto online BBSs from
> my Coco for almost 2 years now, so yes, I know this works. I am not the only
> one. Several others use Supercomm for dw4/telnet communications.
>> In fact, I
> just checked the Supercomm 2.2a documentation and this is the cmd line usage:
> 
>> SuperComm [port] [f=pathlist] [buffersize]
>> 
>> port            Optional
> port specification. SuperComm defaults to /t2
>> f=pathlist      Opens a capture
> buffer on startup. 
>> -f=pathlist      Set up (but don't open) a capture buffer.
> (See Buffer Capture, in the File Transfer Menu)
>> buffersize      Expands the
> buffer beyond the default size of 2K. This applies to all downloads, not just
> the capture buffer.
>> 
>> It defaults to "/t2" but cmd line will override the
> default. So apparently, it's always been that way.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Bill
> Pierce
>> "Charlie stole the handle, and the train it won't stop going, no way to
> slow down!" - Ian Anderson - Jethro Tull
>> 
>> 
>> 
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>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
> From: Robert Gault <robert.gault at att.net>
>> To: CoCoList for Color Computer
> Enthusiasts <coco at maltedmedia.com>
>> Sent: Tue, Nov 3, 2015 8:36 pm
>> Subject:
> Re: [Coco] Supercomm fails to load on NitrOS9 lvl 2 on my CoCo 3 with 128K, and
> a couple of other questions?
>> 
>> 
>> Bill Pierce via Coco wrote:
>>> Robert (and
> others), first of all, no modification
>> is needed at all to run SuperComm under
> NitrOS9 becker OR NitrOS9 DW.
>> DriveWire4 has a "builtin" modem emulation and
> will connect to online "telnet"
>> BBSs and other telnet services. Under NitrOS9
> dw or becker (with internet
>> connection on the dw4 server) just type:
> supercomm /n
>> 
>> 
>>> <snip>
>> 
>> Bill,
>> 
>> Have you tried this with supercomm?
> That program has /t2 hard
>> coded  so there is 
>> a chance you can't use /n.
> 
>> Robert
>> 
>> 
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