[Coco] i am a member

[Stephen H. Fischer]

Thank you, if it's the listserver then it should possibly be part of the monthly mailing information and be explained somewhere so those affected can make adjustments like saying when they request help to please reply to them directly and not to the entire list and include their e-mail address in the text. The CC to them self has been commented on correctly. 

I myself often CC myself a_nani_mouse at mindspring.com so that when Nani's mail is forwarded back to me I can move the post to the correct folder.

If what you said had been known to me I still could not have come to any other conclusion because the names do not match at all.

I have gone many times into the subscriber list and found the correct e-mail, in this case it was just impossible.

The list requires you to sign up with your real name and that's what should be used. The Yahoo mess does not change that.

SHF
 


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "William Astle" <lost at l-w.ca>
To: <coco at maltedmedia.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2015 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Coco] i am a member


> Okay, people. It's great that people are sticking up for Josh but let's 
> see if we can let the argument die down, shall we?
> 
> That said, I'm going to contribute to the noise with some facts.
> 
> First: Josh is *NOT* the one doing this. Nobody is hacking the list. It 
> isn't somehow magically open. Josh is not setting his from address to 
> 'Josh Harper via Coco <coco at maltedmedia.com>'. It is being done by the 
> mailing list software in self defense.
> 
> Second: this is happening due to something called DMARC and the specific 
> manner in which Yahoo and some other operators have chosen to implement 
> it. See the link below for more information or consult your favourite 
> search engine for "DMARC" and "mailing list".
> 
> https://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf/current/msg87153.html
> 
> The gist is that with the specific DMARC configuration Yahoo publishes, 
> it is impossible to reliably deliver email from Yahoo email addresses to 
> subscribers on mailing lists without changing the From address to be 
> something other than a Yahoo address. Hence rewriting the From address 
> to be the list address - the only address the list software knows it 
> controls legitimately.
> 
> The only other option is to ban all subscribers from users of email 
> services such as Yahoo that publish such DMARC policies. That would be a 
> lot more problematic in the long run since it would remove a large 
> percentage of subscribers from most mailing lists.
> 
> For the record, what the Coco list does is about the least bad option 
> and it is employed by many other list operators.
> 
> 
> On 2015-07-02 16:35, Stephen H. Fischer wrote:
>> From: Josh Harper via Coco<coco at maltedmedia.com>
>>
>> Is what he posts with.
>>
>> Not at all like his real e-mail address he has subscribed to the list with.
>>
>> Mine is:
>>
>> From: "Stephen H. Fischer"<SFischer1 at Mindspring.com>
> 
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