[Coco] NitrOS-9 L3 Code and Disk Images

Mon Oct 27 22:34:15 EDT 2014

Hi Kip,

I have a file in my dropbox which is named os9L3.os9. I have checked it 
(again) and it is what I believe to be Alan DeKok's L3. I say that 
because it has files like NitrOS9, _end in the OS9Boot file.

Check it out here: https://www.dropbox.com/s/c9ia3b1zi1zvzgo/OS9L3.os9?dl=0

I may have the source to the version of cc3Go you are referring to. I'll 
have to have a look for it.
I don't think I ever had sources for the version of L3 which I have in 
my dropbox.

Regards, Bob Devries
Dalby, QLD, Australia

On 28/10/2014 12:04 PM, Kip Koon wrote:
> Hi Bob!
> I did an ident and it was quite revealing.  Do you have full copies of this
> version along with source code?  I'd like to see all of it if possible.  I
> saw an ACIA module and on the surface it looks like the console boot device
> was an RS-232 port and it booted off H0.  I'd like to see that setup.  Does
> any of that development still exist?  Do you know why the file I put in
> dropbox is named OS9L3.os9 and not OS9l2.os9?
>
> Kip Koon
> computerdoc at sc.rr.com
> http://www.cocopedia.com/wiki/index.php/Kip_Koon
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Coco [mailto:coco-bounces at maltedmedia.com] On Behalf Of Bob Devries
> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 9:54 PM
> To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts
> Subject: Re: [Coco] NitrOS-9 L3 Code and Disk Images
>
> Hi Kip,
>
> at one time, Don Berrie and I put together a version of CC3Go which was
> programmed to read a config.sys style file and use that for the startup
> shell. If you find a reference to /dd/sys/config.os9 in that cc3go, then
> that's it.
>
> As to it being L3 or not, you would need to do an IDENT of the OS9Boot file.
> That will reveal much.
>
> Regards, Bob Devries
> Dalby, QLD, Australia
>
> On 28/10/2014 11:39 AM, Kip Koon wrote:
>> Hi Guys!
>> This is what cc3go module has as its internal text.
>> Copyright Bob Devries & Don Berrie
>> OS-9 LEVEL TWO VR. 02.00.01 COPYRIGHT 1986 MICROWARE SYSTEMS
>> CORPORATION ALL RIGHTS RESERVED Bill, you are right.  This is really
>> OS-9 L2 v2.0.1! Interesting they would rename it L3.  Maybe this is an
>> interim L3 development version and they just did not update cc3go yet.
>> That's my speculation of course.
>> Running "ded cc3go" has also shown me that it is programmed to boot H0.
>> That's probably the reason why it is not booting.
>> Now to read the rest of this thread and see what you guys are up too.
>> :)
>>
>> Kip Koon
>> computerdoc at sc.rr.com
>> http://www.cocopedia.com/wiki/index.php/Kip_Koon
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Coco [mailto:coco-bounces at maltedmedia.com] On Behalf Of Kip Koon
>> Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 8:52 PM
>> To: 'Bill Pierce'; 'CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts'
>> Subject: Re: [Coco] NitrOS-9 L3 Code and Disk Images
>>
>> Hi Guys!
>> Sorry for being offline.  I've been a bit under the weather.  Here is
>> a link to the OS-9 L3 disk image I downloaded from Alan Dekok's web site.
>> https://www.dropbox.com/s/izktotl4934qut9/OS9L3.os9?dl=0
>> Could you tell me what else would be needed to run this or to update
>> the
>> NitrOS-9 Repo?
>>
>> Kip Koon
>> computerdoc at sc.rr.com
>> http://www.cocopedia.com/wiki/index.php/Kip_Koon
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Coco [mailto:coco-bounces at maltedmedia.com] On Behalf Of Bill
>> Pierce via Coco
>> Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2014 5:01 PM
>> To: coco at maltedmedia.com
>> Subject: Re: [Coco] NitrOS-9 L3 Code and Disk Images
>>
>>
>>
>> Tormod, I sent you a private email concerning Nitros9 level 3
>> yesterday. I think it got screwed in the process so I'll send it again.
>> And yes, there was a working Level 3 at one point, but Alan took it
>> with him when he left us. Unless Kip had a copy from Alan's old
>> website, I don't see how he could've run it. It was only available for
> Nitros9 L2 v1.2.2.
>> The level 3 that Alan was working on was based on code from Nitros9 L2
>> v1.22 (yes, that old), which was still being sold by Northern Exposure
>> at the time. They at one point announced they "may" provide the Level
>> 3 upgrade if enough people showed interest. I don't think they ever
> actually released it.
>> Alan did have it available on his website later.
>>    
>>    
>> The Level 3 code in the repo is missing 4 important files and WILL NOT
>> run without them.
>> These files are "IOMan.L3", "OS9P1.L3" (now named Krn), "OS9p2.L3"
>> (now named KrnP2), and "Clock.L3" (now split into 2 modules).
>> These files have gone through many changes since Nitros9 l2 v1.22 and
>> the original L3 files will have to be disassembled and the newer
>> modules reworked to do what these modules intended for L3.
>> Again... Level 3 WILL NOT WORK without these modules, and I'm NOT
>> referring to the current build of these modules as Alan did special
>> versions of each one. They were not the same modules as in Nitros9 l2
> v1.2.2.
>>    
>>    
>> I think Kip may have been running a release of Nitros9 L2 v3.0.0 as
>> I've seen it in several archives labeled as "L3" which is incorrect.
>> It's just L2 v3.0.0,
>>    
>>
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Tormod Volden <lists.tormod at gmail.com>
>> To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts <coco at maltedmedia.com>
>> Sent: Thu, Oct 23, 2014 4:32 pm
>> Subject: Re: [Coco] NitrOS-9 L3 Code and Disk Images
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 3:38 AM, Kip Koon wrote:
>>> Hi Tormod!
>>>
>>> Are there any plans for reviving the NitrOS-9 Level-3 Code?
>> Hi Kip!
>>
>> I believe Gene has such plans :)
>>
>> I don't know of anyone else. Boisy put this stuff in the repo some
>> years ago, but I think the original level3 work from Alan DeKok is decades
> old.
>> Other than that the only plans that I know anyone has or had for
>> NitrOS-9 is here: http://sourceforge.net/p/nitros9/feature-requests/
>>
>> Personally I would like to see it ported to more systems. There is a
>> crowd of 6809 lovers outside the CoCo/Dragon scene, which I am sure
>> you have seen for instance on the N8VEM list. Getting them involved
>> and using NitrOS-9 as a unifying base would be great. NitrOS-9 offers
>> the a well defined API to write programs that can run on a CoCo or a
> homebrew 6809 system.
>> Generally I think we need more new software running on NitrOS-9, more
>> than we need new features in NitrOS-9. But I am not so much into the
>> use of
>> NitrOS-9 so what do I know. Of course a lot of people think the
>> operating system itself is more interesting to develop than programs
>> for it. And I could fit in there, I guess :)
>>
>>> How do I put in my own changes into my local copy of the NitrOS-9
>>> Repository without the Build process removing said changes every time
>>> I try to assemble the source code and make the disks?  I have some
>>> ideas I want to play with including cleaning up some scripts, adding
>>> other scripts that I think are needed or at least would be
>>> interesting and correcting at least one error in a module.
>> You can make your own local branch. See "hg help branch" for the short
>> story, but read the mercurial documentation and tutorials for better
>> explanations. I posted some of these here:
>> http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.hardware.tandy.coco/75439
>>
>>> Another reason why I'm asking is I have a friend named Bas De Jong
>>> who is running a homebrew 68020 VME system he made using wirewrap
>>> methods that runs
>>> OS-9 68K 2.3 and he wants to add Windowing capabilities to His OS-9
>>> Operating system.
>>>
>>> He asked me some questions about the windowing system in NitrOS-9 and
>>> I told him as far as I know the default distro disks have no built-in
>>> GUI.  Then I remembered the Multivue disks.  I tried the Multivue
>>> 6309 DW and Multivue
>>> 6809 DW disks in Drivewire with VCC 1.43Beta and neither of them
>>> booted.  I also tried to boot the Multivue 6309 and Multivue 6809
>>> disks in VCC Drive 0 with the Drive off Basic command and neither of
>>> these booted.  If I remember correctly,  Multivue is the GUI
>>> application, but I cannot check it out to get copies of the screen
>>> for
>> Bas.
>>> Are the Multivue disks broken or did I make a mistake in my
>>> configuration in Drivewire and/or VCC?
>> I don't know. Maybe Bill Pierce knows, since he's the most heavy user
>> of
>> NitrOS-9 GUI systems that I know of.
>>
>>> I tested a version of OS-9 Level 3 once quite a while back and it
>>> seemed to work fine, but I didn't have a Coco mouse then so I did not
>>> pursue it any further.  Now that I have VCC 1.43beta I'm going to
>>> pull it out again and see if it still boots.  Any help would be most
>>> appreciated.  Thanks in advance.  Take care my friends.
>> So there was a OS-9 Level 3? Interesting. Maybe someone can pitch in
>> with some history and background. I have considered it more like
>> vaporware, from reading the NitrOS-9 FAQ.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Tormod
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