[Coco] [Color Computer] Vcc OS-9 keyboard mapping

Sat Apr 19 11:25:44 EDT 2014

Kip,

If you want to understand the "odd window sizes" that are default, try
opening them with their default settings (not your custom settings). I have
to look it up again, but I did an experiment one time. I found that some of
the windows are set up to be displayed at the same time by fitting on the
screen at once. As I recall, one of them goes across the bottom of the
screen and the other two are side-by-side above that. Which windows it was
I do not recall. Again, I will have to look up the test code I wrote (if I
still have it).

Wayne

On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 6:07 AM, Bill Pierce <ooogalapasooo at aol.com> wrote:

>
> Kip, "wmode" should be on all of the vhd's you have that I made. It's a
> "standard" in my CMDS dir. It works EXACTLY like dmode, just on windows
> instead of drives. Of course, once you change them, you have to "cobbler"
> to keep the changes in a new boot.
>
> After thinking on it a bit, some of the "default" window values are "odd"
> sized windows. A smaller "graphics window (or HW text for that matter)
> cannot be "opened" over an 80 column text window. As fare as I know, NO
> windows can overlap other windows... only overlays can do this.  This might
> be part of the problem you guys are having. This is why I set ALL my
> windows to HW 80 col text, so they will all open properly. If I need a
> graphics screen, I create it, but at full size. You can't create a "100 x
> 100" graphics window and call it from a single "80 x 24" HW text window. It
> will not work. A full size graphics window would be needed first. The OS9
> Tech reference explains a lot of this. I'm sure I'll be corrected if I'm
> wrong, but I know I'm at least partially right :-)
>
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kip Koon <computerdoc at sc.rr.com>
> To: 'CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts' <coco at maltedmedia.com>
> Sent: Sat, Apr 19, 2014 1:04 am
> Subject: Re: [Coco] [Color Computer] Vcc OS-9 keyboard mapping
>
>
> Hi Guys!
> I too have seen nonresponsive window actions or rather non-actions when I
> was switching between some of the windows.  It just seemingly did nothing.
> I would love to have that wmode command.  I need an easier way to look at
> all the windows descriptors.  Silly me, I've tried to use xmode for that in
> the past.  Oops!  After no success (of course) I switched to using ded and
> all is well for now.  I could definitely use a copy of that wmode command
> though.  I did not know it existed.  Thanks for mentioning it.  Take care
> my
> friends.
> Kip
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: coco-bounces at maltedmedia.com [mailto:coco-bounces at maltedmedia.com]
> On
> Behalf Of Wayne Campbell
> Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2014 12:25 AM
> To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts
> Subject: Re: [Coco] [Color Computer] Vcc OS-9 keyboard mapping
>
> There was/is a 80 column term window. I have had my system set to use it
> since my real coco3 back in 89-94. I wouldn't go back. Also, w5 is not the
> same window as term.
>
> Wayne
>  On Apr 18, 2014 11:50 PM, "Jerry Cantrill" <jwcantrill at earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
> > thanks Bill; Knowing that [END] was [BREAK], I tried [HOME] for
> > [CLEAR] but, i tried again after your confirmation using /w1, /w4 and
> > /w7. i was able to swap between them okay as advertised. so i looked a
> > little closer to exactly what happened when i use /w5 and i think that
> > /term and /w5 must be the same window on the pre-made dsk i am using.
> > i can live with that while i am still re-learning. i think that i
> > should have been suspicious with this 80 col black on green /term as
> > it did not seem the same as i remembered as being a 32 col black on green
> from about 20+ years ago.
> > (every body are always amazed that i have such a good memory - i just
> > have to keep telling them it is my retrieval system that has all the
> faults).
> >
> > as for the vhd, i will keep you in mind but for now i want to play
> > with this some more before i advance too far. actually i would like to
> > start with a stock OS-9 dsk(s) or a Nitros9 that is more closer to the
> > orig OS-9 L2. i heard the earlier Nitros' were but i could only find
> > this newer version 3.3 where i was looking.
> >
> > again, thanks - jerry
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > >Date: Fri, 18 Apr 2014 21:50:26 -0400 (EDT)
> > >From: Bill Pierce <ooogalapasooo at aol.com>
> > >Subject: Re: [Coco] [Color Computer] Vcc OS-9 keyboard mapping
> > >To: coco at maltedmedia.com
> > >Message-ID: <8D12988DE6ACDE5-984-30316 at webmail-d138.sysops.aol.com>
> > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> > >
> > >
> > >@jwcantrill
> > >
> > >Try pressing the [HOME] key on your PC keyboard for [CLEAR]. Also,
> > >the
> > [END] key is the [BREAK] key
> > >
> > >You will not be able to use the emulated hard drive due to NitrOS9
> > >needs
> > the "EmuDsk" driver and descriptors. If you need them, send me a
> > private email and I can send you copies of them. Or I can make you a
> > complete, pre-configured boot VHD if wanted :-)
> > >
> > >There are other options as well... just send me an email and I can
> > explain.
> > >
> > >
> > >Bill Pierce
> > >"Today is a good day... I woke up" - Ritchie Havens
> > >
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: jwcantrill <jwcantrill at earthlink.net>
> > >To: ColorComputer <ColorComputer at yahoogroups.com>
> > >Sent: Fri, Apr 18, 2014 7:40 pm
> > >Subject: [Coco] [Color Computer] Vcc OS-9 keyboard mapping
> > >
> > >
> > >i have taken the plunge and installed Vcc v1.42 (don't need DW yet)
> > >on my
> > laptop
> > >and have booted up Nitros9 v3.3 and all is well. Set my time, dir'd
> > >my 80
> > track
> > >disk image (cant seem to get the .vhd recognized, but hat is for a
> > >later
> > date),
> > >mdir'd what's loaded and see the /w# drivers so started up a shell
> > >i=/w5&
> > and it
> > >looks like it did it except when i went to press the [CLEAR} key to
> > >swap
> > to
> > >it... where is the [CLEAR] key?
> > >
> > >i searched the net for but did not find anything to tell me what the
> > >Vcc
> > Basic
> > >or OS-9 keyboards maps to the "modern" laptop keys. Could someone
> > >point
> > me in
> > >the right direction?
> > >
> > >-thanks, jerry
> >
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