[Coco] DriveWire issues with Coco 1 F/285 Board

Gene Heskett gheskett at wdtv.com
Tue Jul 2 14:51:26 EDT 2013


On Tuesday 02 July 2013 14:47:50 Luis Antoniosi (CoCoDemus) did opine:

> but which one is pin-compatible ?
> 
There was a link posted to a site that had some of the newer, better 
versions listed, all of which will be drop ins.

This one I think:

<http://www.petervis.com/Education/741_Pin_Compatible_Equivalent_Op_Amps/741_Pin_Compatible_Equivalent_Op_Amps.html>

I'd prefer the LM35# family, a lot faster.

> On Tue, Jul 2, 2013 at 2:31 PM, Gene Heskett <gheskett at wdtv.com> wrote:
> > On Tuesday 02 July 2013 14:27:12 Luis Antoniosi (CoCoDemus) did opine:
> > > unfortunately the 741C is one of the few soldered IC's in my board
> > > :(
> > 
> > Its not worth salvaging Luis, nip it off at the chip body and then you
> > can unsolder it one pin at a time.  And put the next one in a gold
> > flashed socket.
> > 
> > > On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 7:43 AM, Torsten Dittel <OS-9 at trs-80.cc> 
wrote:
> > > > Gene Heskett <gheskett at ...> writes:
> > > > > The 741C is a very slow op-amp, incapable of doing more than a
> > > > > low amplitude, slew rate limited triangular wave at 31.25
> > > > > kikobaud.  Its full gain bandwidth is only 10Hz!
> > > > 
> > > > ...just enough for the max. 9.6 kBaud (POKE 150,1) the CoCo was
> > > > designed for... ;-)
> > 
> > Not really.  If you ever saw it on a scope, you would cringe in horror
> > that it even worked.
> > 
> > > > > Even if you have to re-arrenge the basing,
> > > > > one of the op-amps in the LM35X family would be many many times
> > > > > more capable a device.  The LM358, in an 8 pin minidip,
> > > > > actually contains 2 fully compensated devices with .1 megacycle
> > > > > plus abilities at greatly reduced power consumption.
> > > > 
> > > > I would have to open this particular CoCo to figure out which
> > > > replacement IC made it in, but it was pin-compatible (and didn't
> > > > require further HW- changes), I guess one of these proposals here:
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > http://www.petervis.com/Education/741_Pin_Compatible_Equivalent_Op
> > > > _Amp s/741_ Pin_Compatible_Equivalent_Op_Amps.html
> > > > 
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Torsten
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
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> > Cheers, Gene
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Cheers, Gene
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