[Coco] So, my CoCo 3 may be having some trouble

Christopher Smith csmith at wolfram.com
Thu Aug 22 21:22:58 EDT 2013


Sent you an email on this subject directly, Bill.

Chris

----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bill Pierce" <ooogalapasooo at aol.com>
> To: coco at maltedmedia.com
> Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 9:46:26 PM
> Subject: Re: [Coco] So, my CoCo 3 may be having some trouble
> 
> 
> Chris,
> I can convert the code if you can send me a copy of the wave file.
> A rom/ram loader must be added to the code in memory before the load
> address of the file.
> I have done this to many carts in the past. All I need is an image of
> cassette file in wav format.
> 
> Bill Pierce
> My Music from the Tandy/Radio Shack Color Computer 2 & 3
> https://sites.google.com/site/dabarnstudio/
> Co-Webmaster of The TRS-80 Color Computer Archive
> http://www.colorcomputerarchive.com/
> Co-Contributor, Co-Editor for CocoPedia
> http://www.cocopedia.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
> E-Mail: ooogalapasooo at aol.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christopher Smith <csmith at wolfram.com>
> To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts <coco at maltedmedia.com>
> Sent: Wed, Aug 21, 2013 10:30 pm
> Subject: Re: [Coco] So, my CoCo 3 may be having some trouble
> 
> 
> Yes, I managed to get that from Google after I sent the message.
>  Turns out that
> it won't reload back into the original location, and it won't run
> from a new
> location (so I assume the code isn't relocatable)...  I'm now
> thinking it will
> need something that puts the coco into RAM mode and then reloads it
> back into
> the correct spot.  I'll see about capturing it in such a way that it
> will load
> up in an emulator -- such as it ever loads up so far -- shortly.
> 
> Chris
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Bill Pierce" <ooogalapasooo at aol.com>
> > To: coco at maltedmedia.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2013 6:10:01 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Coco] So, my CoCo 3 may be having some trouble
> > 
> > 
> > Chris,
> > The cart is not going to reload at the addresses it's saved from.
> > You'll be reloading to a rom area and the Coco don't like that. It
> > has to be converted to load from lower memory with a rom/ram
> > loader.
> > If you have a successful save, send it to me and I'll do the
> > conversion and send it back. The whole idea (at this point) is to
> > just get a successful cassette save and convert it to a wav file.
> > 
> > Bill Pierce
> > My Music from the Tandy/Radio Shack Color Computer 2 & 3
> > https://sites.google.com/site/dabarnstudio/
> > Co-Webmaster of The TRS-80 Color Computer Archive
> > http://www.colorcomputerarchive.com/
> > Co-Contributor, Co-Editor for CocoPedia
> > http://www.cocopedia.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
> > E-Mail: ooogalapasooo at aol.com
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Christopher Smith <csmith at wolfram.com>
> > To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts <coco at maltedmedia.com>
> > Sent: Tue, Aug 20, 2013 3:29 am
> > Subject: Re: [Coco] So, my CoCo 3 may be having some trouble
> > 
> > 
> > Well, I haven't been able to get the cart to save and then reload
> > without an I/O
> > error.  Not quite sure what's going on yet.  Small BASIC programs
> > seem to work
> > fine.
> > 
> > Chris
> > 
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Bill Pierce" <ooogalapasooo at aol.com>
> > > To: coco at maltedmedia.com
> > > Sent: Saturday, August 17, 2013 8:43:24 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [Coco] So, my CoCo 3 may be having some trouble
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Thanks Tormod,
> > > I'm not real familiar with the pinouts of carts. I only had a few
> > > "simple" carts back in the 80s EdtAsm, a couple of games, and the
> > > Orch90 was one of them. It stayed in a "taped" state from the
> > > time
> > > I
> > > discovered the feature to the present day. If I wanted to use the
> > > Orch90 rom, I would just enter EXEC&HC000. I then got a disk
> > > drive
> > > (and Midi software) and didn't have an MPI so I quit using it
> > > except
> > > for special ocassions when showing off some of my old custom
> > > "stereo" software.
> > > 
> > > I had a Casio SK-1 sampling keyboard with 5 "user" sample slots.
> > > Remember the TV commercials of the kid playing "Jingle Bells"
> > > with
> > > samples of his dog barking? I connected the two outputs of the
> > > Orch90 pak to 2 channels of a little RS 4 channel mixer. That way
> > > I
> > > could custom mix the two outputs to one channel. The SK-1 had a
> > > 1/8th in. microphone input that I connected to the output of the
> > > mixer.
> > > I used the SK-1 in the band I was playing in. I would have the
> > > Coco
> > > set up on the top tier of my keyboard stand. My custom software
> > > would play stereo samples to the SK-1 and one by one I would load
> > > them into the 5 banks on the SK-1 for each song when I needed
> > > them.
> > > The SK-1's onboard sounds were horrible, but with my samples, I
> > > could produce the sounds of real strings and organs as well as
> > > special effects. I sampled these sounds into the Coco using the 6
> > > bit input on the joystick port for greatest fidelity. My software
> > > had an editor in which I could edit the waveform itself as well
> > > as
> > > attack, sustain, decay and release. It also expanded the
> > > frequency
> > > to that of an 8 bit sample for the Orch90 which was 8 bit output.
> > > The software allowd storage of 10 small samples with playback of
> > > any
> > > one or two samples in stereo.
> > > The lead singer of the band would get mad everytime he had to
> > > wait
> > > for me to load samples from cassette before we could start a song
> > > !
> > > 
> > > Bill Pierce
> > > My Music from the Tandy/Radio Shack Color Computer 2 & 3
> > > https://sites.google.com/site/dabarnstudio/
> > > Co-Webmaster of The TRS-80 Color Computer Archive
> > > http://www.colorcomputerarchive.com/
> > > Co-Contributor, Co-Editor for CocoPedia
> > > http://www.cocopedia.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
> > > E-Mail: ooogalapasooo at aol.com
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Tormod Volden <lists.tormod at gmail.com>
> > > To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts
> > > <coco at maltedmedia.com>
> > > Sent: Sat, Aug 17, 2013 3:30 am
> > > Subject: Re: [Coco] So, my CoCo 3 may be having some trouble
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Sat, Aug 17, 2013 at 2:09 AM, Bill Pierce wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Chris,
> > > > Yes, I think so, so if either side makes contact, the cart will
> > > > auto boot. So
> > > wrap a small stripp of tape around to each side of the contacts
> > > 
> > > Robert Gault explains this very well here:
> > > http://aaronwolfe.com/robert.gault/Coco/Unpublished/CART2RAM.html
> > > 
> > > Whether pin 7 (top) and pin 8 (bottom) are on the far left side
> > > depends on the number of pins on the cartridge. Chris's PNG is of
> > > a
> > > 28-pin cartridge where pins 1-6 and 35-40 are missing (quite
> > > common,
> > > I
> > > believe).
> > > 
> > > Tormod
> > > 
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