[Coco] Time Bandit - CoCo 3 version?? Or...what version is this?
Blake Patterson
blakespot at gmail.com
Wed Apr 3 15:15:05 EDT 2013
I have made contact with Matt from the now-defunct blog that seems to be
the source of those images that appear to be re-works of the CoCo
screenshots. I got a response back and sent him my quandry. We may be close
to an answer here. I'll share as soon as I hear back!
bp
On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 8:04 AM, L. Curtis Boyle <curtisboyle at sasktel.net>wrote:
> Heh... That's kinda funny... I had forgotten that the screenshots on Moby
> Games were submitted by me years ago. Thanks for the unintentional
> reminder. :-)
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 2013-04-03, at 5:01 AM, Blake Patterson <blakespot at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > The CoCo shots on my site, it seems likely, I grabbed from the MobyGames
> > page here:
> >
> > http://www.mobygames.com/game/trs-80-coco/time-bandit/screenshots
> >
> > I believe I have located Matt Gifford on Twitter, owner of the
> now-defunct
> > blog where I found the "Sanyo images," and have contacted him, though
> I've
> > heard nothing back as yet.
> >
> > It does seems likely that those images are some kind of nostalgic fan
> > tribute to the CoCo version. I'd love to know who generated them along
> with
> > their story.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > bp
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 2, 2013 at 11:56 PM, Jayeson Lee-Steere <
> > cocolistemail at titaniumstudios.com> wrote:
> >
> >> As a reference point, those original images contain almost 800 colors
> >> between them, one has 391 unique colors. That combination of low Coco
> >> resolution and very high color count indicates to me a nostalgic work.
> >> Heck, someone may have just retouched the 4 color Coco shots as a
> concept.
> >>
> >> Google's image based search finds no current versions of those colored
> >> images, other than your copies Blake. Ironically, what is a apparently a
> >> composite of a colorized Coco version over a Sanyo MBC is now the cover
> >> shot of Gerry Brophy's MBC Archive site:
> >> http://www.eriscreations.com/sanyo/ .
> >> Especially so, since he has screenshots of the very different, actual
> MBC
> >> version.
> >>
> >> Blake, where did your 4 color Coco images come from?
> >>
> >> Jayeson
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Jayeson Lee-Steere <
> >> cocolistemail at titaniumstudios.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Where did you get the Coco and unknown platform pics?
> >>>
> >>> The 4-color Coco pics look to be from an accurate Coco/Coco emulator
> >>> capture. Note that these would have originally been 2 color and
> converted
> >>> to 4 color by an algorithm that mimics NTSC artifacting. The algorithm
> >> used
> >>> here is not particularly accurate - the width of a lot of pixels is off
> >> and
> >>> it is missing some mixed colors - there should be some green tints in
> >> there
> >>> at least.
> >>>
> >>> The unknown shots look to me like someone's project, and probably from
> >> the
> >>> same source as the 4 color pics. Both 4 and high-color versions have
> the
> >>> same outlines. The high-color versions have a lot of colors in them -
> >> more
> >>> than a Coco 3 can display. It appears that each Coco sprite image has
> >> been
> >>> assigned new colors for red and blue, and then procedurally "lit" from
> >> the
> >>> top left. One might do this if they had fond memories of the game but
> >> found
> >>> the primitive graphics difficult to deal with now (I fall into that
> >>> category but this is not my work).
> >>>
> >>> As a side note, it is generally good form when posting someone else's
> >>> material to attribute the source, and, it helps avoid situations like
> >> this
> >>> where important information is lost.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>>
> >>> Jayeson
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 6:25 AM, Blake Patterson <blakespot at gmail.com
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I am a big fan of Time Bandit from MichTron / MicroDeal. I enjoy it
> >>>> primarily on the Atari ST. I do have the CoCo I / II version, though.
> >>>>
> >>>> I made this post some years ago:
> >>>>
> >>>> http://www.bytecellar.com/2004/10/26/time_bandit/
> >>>>
> >>>> Look down at the pics. The CoCo I / II version is right there,
> labelled
> >> as
> >>>> such. But the version I labelled the Sanyo MBC-550 version is NOT the
> >>>> Sanyo
> >>>> version, I've just discovered. I just came across screens of that
> >> version
> >>>> and it is definitely not the one shown in my post.
> >>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/blakespot/8613890082/in/set-72157633146005641/
> >>>>
> >>>> So...I'm trying to determine what version is pictured in my post,
> >>>> mislabelled as the Sanyo version. The shape of the graphics looks
> nearly
> >>>> identical to the CoCo I / II version, but with much better color.
> >>>>
> >>>> Was there a CoCo 3 version in the works? I don't think it was ever
> >>>> released, if so. Any ideas here?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> bp
> >>>>
> >>>> --
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> >>>>
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