[Coco] Which Mark? Marlette or McDougal or Ormond? was Re: Intro.

James Hrubik jimhrubik at earthlink.net
Sat Nov 13 20:06:04 EST 2010 

Personally, I think progress is glorious.  "know of" is different  
from "been there".

The good old days : typing up 100 cards on a punchcard machine,  
marking the edges so that in case they get dropped you can put them  
back in the right order, waiting 2 days for the ANOVA to come back  
from the Computer Center.  I'll say it again : I think progress is  
glorious.

On Nov 13, 2010, at 7:31 PM, Steven Triller wrote:

>
> Well, "progress" is not as glorious as one might think, often new  
> technologies are merely fads promoted by corporations with the  
> agenda of making money, which is what they exist for. This sadly  
> results in many good units that are still useful today and may be  
> of historic value being tossed in the trash, also this create an  
> environmental problem, so many good working CRT TV's thrown away  
> because of the "Digital-Transition" sigh.............and they will  
> continue to pile up in Garbage dumps..........why not recycle the  
> useful material like the plastic and the metal parts? ? We could  
> use them to at least produce the new Digital set's. As for what  
> many may perceive to be boring stories about........well  
> anything........those stories may well be relevant to those  
> kids.....but rather than talk about something relevant to the  
> world, they would rather talk about something stupid and irrelevant  
> or about the "latest development" "look Apple computers just  
> released a new Ipod" Or "did y
>  ou know so and so are doing it?" How can people prioritize such  
> frivolous discussion over what is relevant to the world? They are  
> being consumed by their own petty self-interest and ignoring all  
> that is around them, the problems and what is great about the  
> world. I do not wish to change or "improve" this community, but the  
> whole world, Call it CoCo or just Color Computer 3....although I do  
> not think Mark 3 or Version 3 would be wrong, even though the  
> general consensus is CoCo or Color computer. Lastly I am aware of a  
> time when there was no personal computers, I know my history-I know  
> of the big tubed computers used by the government and educational  
> institutions in the 40's-70's.
>
>> From: jimhrubik at earthlink.net
>> Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 19:16:11 -0500
>> To: coco at maltedmedia.com
>> Subject: [Coco] Which Mark? Marlette or McDougal or Ormond? was  
>> Re: Intro.
>>
>> Sounds like phishy went a trolling ...
>>
>> Madagascar, CoCoNut -- Art, that does make sense in a strange way.
>>
>> There will always be some people who desire to join a group just so
>> they can "improve" it, and its just like us old curmudgeons to resist
>> the "improvement".
>>
>> Gotta keep telling myself there are people on this list who never
>> knew a time when there were no personal computers.
>> Or even pocket calculators.
>> I like regaling the kiddies with stories about the party line; they
>> can't fathom the idea of placing a call through an operator.
>> I miss my slipstick; my grandkids think I'm kidding when I talk of
>> logarithmic scales.
>>
>> On Nov 13, 2010, at 4:59 PM, Steven Triller wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I understand, but do you not think that Mark or V3 would made more
>>> sense than just 3?
>>>
>>>> Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 14:53:14 -0700
>>>> From: lost at l-w.ca
>>>> To: coco at maltedmedia.com
>>>> Subject: Re: [Coco] Intro.
>>>>
>>>> On 10-11-13 02:13 PM, Steven Triller wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Well what is wrong with calling the Color Computer 3 the Mark 3?
>>>>> That designation is accurate since it is the 3rd version of that
>>>>> machine...somehow the Color Computer 3 without the the addition
>>>>> of V or MK before the 3 seems improper....it is the 3rd version
>>>>> or mark of the Color Computer....and that is why I have chosen
>>>>> that designation...
>>>>
>>>> What's wrong with it is that it is not the designation from the
>>>> original
>>>> manufacturer. It says right on the box "Color Computer 3". Thus,  
>>>> the
>>>> correct name does not include "Mark" in it.
>>>>
>>>> That aside, there is over 20 years of history which calls it "Color
>>>> Computer 3" with no "mark" in it. Thus, using that will likely
>>>> confuse
>>>> people.
>>>>
>>>> As a side note, the "Mark #" designation scheme is not commonly
>>>> used in
>>>> North America so it will likely confuse a substantial portion of  
>>>> the
>>>> people reached through this list.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2010 22:49:57 -0500
>>>>>> From: flexser at fiu.edu
>>>>>> To: coco at maltedmedia.com
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Coco] Intro.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Welcome, but I've gotta ask:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What's an "MK 3" Color Computer?  Never heard of that beast.  Do
>>>>>> you perhaps
>>>>>> mean a CoCo 3?  Or, is it one of those CoCo clones sold only in
>>>>>> Madagascar
>>>>>> or someplace?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Art
>>>>>> On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Steven
>>>>>> Triller<trillersmi at hotmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, to introduce myself, I suppose I should say I am a  
>>>>>>> collector
>>>>>>> interested in vintage electronics from the old-era, why?
>>>>>>> Because they
>>>>>>> generally embody a better design both in the style of the
>>>>>>> design and in the
>>>>>>> quality of the hardware, and perhaps most importantly are still
>>>>>>> useful and
>>>>>>> certainly fun, in the case of vintage micro-computers they
>>>>>>> offer all of the
>>>>>>> basic functions that we use on modern computers today-that is
>>>>>>> to say with
>>>>>>> the right hardware and software you could even write a term-
>>>>>>> paper on a Tandy
>>>>>>> Color Computer. Furthermore, they also play great old-style/
>>>>>>> arcade games, so
>>>>>>> they are great gaming machines. The second generation of
>>>>>>> hardware, in terms
>>>>>>> of video games and computers was for me at least the best era,
>>>>>>> so many
>>>>>>> simple but innovative games made in that era-in short I think
>>>>>>> there was much
>>>>>>> more uniqueness in the design of games. As for the modern era-
>>>>>>> games seem to
>>>>>>> follow a predetermined pattern and consensus, in other words
>>>>>>> genres and
>>>>>>> franchises-in short what i
>>>>>>>   s successful, the modern era seems stagnant, it is just a
>>>>>>> game of follow
>>>>>>> the leader. As for my interest in CoCo, I am interested in it
>>>>>>> because of the
>>>>>>> reasons cited above and so I just acquired a MK 3 Color
>>>>>>> Computer, but I have
>>>>>>>   no games for it.........so what I would really like is some
>>>>>>> basic game
>>>>>>> code so I can enter the the game code itself so that I can start
>>>>>>> enjoying it-computers like the Commodore Vic-20 and The Coco
>>>>>>> are really
>>>>>>> great gaming computers, and that is my main interest-the type
>>>>>>> of games I
>>>>>>>   like are arcade-style games, Like Donkey Kong, Space
>>>>>>> Invaders, Pacman
>>>>>>> and so on. Also I am also interested in the history of the
>>>>>>> Machine and as
>>>>>>>   such would be interested in material like Consumer reports or
>>>>>>> Ad's or
>>>>>>> other material produced-magazine articles or general articles
>>>>>>> especially
>>>>>>>   those containing examples of game code, and introducing the
>>>>>>> new CoCo.
>>>>>>> These material are desired on the subject of CoCo, articles
>>>>>>> made at the
>>>>>>> height of The Color Computer's popularity from the early 80's
>>>>>>> to the early
>>>>>>> 90's........
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Steven
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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