[Coco] Color LOGO
Aaron Wolfe
aawolfe at gmail.com
Fri Apr 2 17:00:45 EDT 2010
On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 4:29 PM, Brian Blake <random.rodder at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> All of this appears to be a moot point - I've gotten a 'Take down' notice
> from my ISP...
> I'm talking to them about it right now - they think it's being used as
> storage (technically correct I guess...)
>
Maybe you could contribute the files to malted media's archive? I
liked your organization better, but it would be nice not to have to
search two sites anyway.
>
> Brian
>
> On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Aaron Wolfe <aawolfe at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 3:22 PM, Tim Fadden <t.fadden at cox.net> wrote:
>> > On 4/2/2010 11:53 AM, Aaron Wolfe wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 9:56 AM,<paulh96636 at aol.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>> Didn't work for me using Safari on OSX 10.4.1
>> >>> error code -36
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >> Then your browser fails to properly implement RFC 1738, which is where
>> >> URL syntax is defined.
>> >>
>> >> Although that is possible, I suspect this is not the case, and you are
>> >> not actually seeing what is in my message. Poorly behaved mail
>> >> clients like to mangle URLs that don't fit their limited understanding
>> >> of the syntax. The best approach, if you must use one of these mail
>> >> clients, is to view messages as plain text. This should preserve the
>> >> URL as I typed it.
>> >>
>> >> -Aaron
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> > If using thunderbird, do a "mouse over" on the link. At the bottom you
>> will
>> > see the correct link address.
>> >
>> > Also, If you go back to the original web link on:
>> > http://colorcomputer.50webs.com/cocolinks-en.html and show a "mouse
>> over",
>> >
>> > It shows up as: ftp://anonymous@randomrodder.com@ftp.randomrodder.com/
>> >
>> > Which is different than what is being sent around.
>> >
>>
>> That is different from the URL I've suggested folks try only in that
>> the first "@" in my version is replaced by %40.
>> The two are equivalent in any browser that supports internet
>> standards, but having two @ signs seemed to confused IE whereas using
>> %40 in it's place worked fine.
>>
>> Having an @ sign in an FTP user name is probably not a great idea for
>> compatibility with the widest range of clients, but it is legal.
>>
>> > If you go there, and then put in: anonymous at randomrodder.com for the
>> > password, it works When using Firefox.
>> >
>>
>> Firefox also supports the variation of putting a : after the username
>> and before the @site:
>>
>> ftp://anonymous%40randomrodder.com:@ftp.randomrodder.com/
>>
>> This tells Firefox to use a password of "nothing" which gets you in
>> and prevents any password prompts from showing up at all. Even though
>> this syntax is used as an example in the RFC itself, IE doesn't seem
>> to allow it. Instead I had to leave out the null password (:) and
>> then respond to a "Enter password" prompt with nothing.
>>
>>
>> > Also, when using FTPVoyager (a windows gui ftp client) anonymous login
>> does
>> > not work. what does work is:
>> > Login: anonymous at randomrodder.com
>> > Password: anonymous at randomrodder.com
>> >
>> > This is the strangest setup I have ever seen, one of a kind, and I use
>> ftp
>> > on a daily basis all over the place.
>> >
>>
>> Agree it is a weird setup. I've not seen it before either. Rather
>> than supporting anonymous FTP properly, the site requires regular user
>> login as "anonymous at randomrodder.com". I never type a password
>> though, I leave it blank and it works. In any case, simple changing
>> the site to use regular anonymous FTP (if public access is the goal)
>> would sure save some folks on the list some trouble! :)
>>
>>
>> > That is the only way I have been able to get in any how. I don't know
>> about
>> > rfc's, But I can figure out how to get in! :-)
>> >
>>
>> The RFC that defines URL syntax is pretty easier to understand, and
>> knowing it will let you use your browser to do all kinds of cool
>> things:
>>
>> 3.1. Common Internet Scheme Syntax
>>
>> While the syntax for the rest of the URL may vary depending on the
>> particular scheme selected, URL schemes that involve the direct use
>> of an IP-based protocol to a specified host on the Internet use a
>> common syntax for the scheme-specific data:
>>
>> //<user>:<password>@<host>:<port>/<url-path>
>>
>> Some or all of the parts "<user>:<password>@", ":<password>",
>> ":<port>", and "/<url-path>" may be excluded. The scheme specific
>> data start with a double slash "//" to indicate that it complies with
>> the common Internet scheme syntax. The different components obey the
>> following rules:
>>
>> user
>> An optional user name. Some schemes (e.g., ftp) allow the
>> specification of a user name.
>>
>> password
>> An optional password. If present, it follows the user
>> name separated from it by a colon.
>>
>> The user name (and password), if present, are followed by a
>> commercial at-sign "@". Within the user and password field, any ":",
>> "@", or "/" must be encoded.
>>
>> Note that an empty user name or password is different than no user
>> name or password; there is no way to specify a password without
>> specifying a user name. E.g., <URL:ftp://@host.com/> has an empty
>> user name and no password, <URL:ftp://host.com/> has no user name,
>> while <URL:ftp://foo:@host.com/> has a user name of "foo" and an
>> empty password.
>>
>>
>>
>> (from http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc1738.html)
>>
>> -Aaron
>>
>> > Tim
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> -----Original Message-----
>> >>> From: Aaron Wolfe<aawolfe at gmail.com>
>> >>> To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts<coco at maltedmedia.com>
>> >>> Sent: Thu, Apr 1, 2010 10:19 pm
>> >>> Subject: Re: [Coco] Color LOGO
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> ftp://anonymous%40randomrodder.com@ftp.randomrodder.com/
>> >>>
>> >>> try that one. ie is picky
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 10:05 PM, Bob Devries<devries.bob at gmail.com>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Brian wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> ftp://anonymous%40randomrodder.com:@ftp.randomrodder.com/
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Neither my Outlook Express nor Internet Explorer will resolve that to
>> a
>> >>>> usable address.
>> >>>> If I copy the URL to IE, it gives me the usual page that tells me I
>> >>>> failed.
>> >>>> Clicking the link gives nothing at all. OE doesn't recognise it as a
>> >>>> URL.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Regards, Bob Devries
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> --
>> >>>> Besides a mathematical inclination, an exceptionally good mastery of
>> >>>> one's
>> >>>> native tongue is the most vital asset of a competent programmer.
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Edsger W.Dijkstra, 18 June 1975
>> >>>>
>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian
>> >>>> Blake"<random.rodder at gmail.com>
>> >>>> To: "CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts"<coco at maltedmedia.com>
>> >>>> Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 11:58 AM
>> >>>> Subject: Re: [Coco] Color LOGO
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> ftp://anonymous%40randomrodder.com:@ftp.randomrodder.com/
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Try that one... worked for me.
>> >>>>>
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