[Coco] Mr Bjork please don't leave the communiity on theaccount of one disgruntled member!

[Brian Blake]

I really wasn't going to respond to this thread. I think the whole situation is juvinile (yes I'm using that word again). The person who hacked the site acted in a juvinile manner when he hacked it. Many of the complaints after coco3.com was partially restored were juvinile. Anyone, myself included, who could have thought for a second that the forum should have been restored overnight was either sorely mistaken or just didn't have anything better to do. 

I may be wrong about this, I do believe I was the first to notice the damage, at least to my account. I think I might have had 100 posts that are gone. I look at it more like RG does. Okay, the posts are gone, if I have questions I'll ask again. I'm not going to hold Roger accountable in any way for what happened or how ever long it takes to restore the forum. The man does this in his spare time for the group, and no one should complain. 

Finally, insulting people on a classic computer forum is juvinile. If someone really makes you so upset you have to insult them you obviously have much deeper problems. Some may take that last statement as an insult; it's not meant to be. Just an observation from 40 years on the blue planet (no I don't fall into the over 50 category either)

Brian. 

Sent from Brian's iPhone

On Aug 29, 2009, at 7:10 PM, Roger Taylor <operator at coco3.com> wrote:

At 05:17 AM 8/29/2009, you wrote:
I could see where Steve was coming from.  On the one hand, why post to a
site that seems to "have it in" for him.  A lot of time and effort can go
into properly responding to a question, and then to see that effort "wasted"
when the post evaporates can be very upsetting.  Not that I think Roger has
anything to do with it beyond having too much on his plate and not being
sufficiently god-like in his troubleshooting ability to figure out why some
posts just won't show up.

Steves initial point was valid.  Until the site was "fixed", why post on it?

This is old news, but I must say that all forums are hackable eventually, and there is no "fixed".  No matter what CMS or forum system I research, I see hundreds of google'ed complaints about how a user can fix the spam problem, etc.  We live in a cruel world.  It'll be a cat and dog fight until the day we die.



Then the other guy, who had like 38 posts total, got into a snit over it.
Its like a guy with 7 twitter posts getting into a chest thumping argument
with a novelist.  They are not in the same league.

Did Steve over-react?, probably.  But I don't know what is going on in his
life right now.  Hopefully time will allow everyone a chance to get some
perspective.

The good part is that I have seen Steve's and other user's (who were hacked) posts in the database, although not linked to their message IDs.  It's a relational database.  I'd have to find a well-known trustee among us or elsewhere to volunteer to repair the forum database, linking all "missing" posts back to their headers/topics.  I'm not sure I can do it.

This leads to another question: can the old (very populated) Invision Power Board forums of coco3.com be restored and merged into the current forum somehow, even if read-only or channeled to another subforum.

An Invision Power Board + phpBB2 + MySQL + PHP expert would have to do these jobs.

I long for the day we have XML-based forum content, or some other generic format that can be interchanged more easily.  A LOT is lost when hacks like this happen with there being no speedy recovery.

I'm building an unrelated site right now which uses Joomla and if it survives some time without being spammed or hacked, I'll trust it to be a good candidate for the new coco3.com framework.


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Roger Taylor

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