[Coco] Help - CoCo emulator disk image formats...???

Sat Jul 15 13:55:34 EDT 2006

B&P;

> How were you able to download the v2.01j version from the OmniFlop web
> page?

I was originally trying to register 2.01i so I could use the 'custom' 
format.  (I tell you... he sure does make it hard to use his program!  You 
have to register for every little format you want.  And it generates random 
chars which are hard to type in.  (The computer I installed OmniFlop on 
doesn't have net access, so I had to do it all manually.)  It looks like 
it's generating an id code that the reg doesn't like.  It's got a backspace 
and other stuff in it.  Trying to type in a backspace char was fun....  If 
he was getting paid for OmniFlop, I could understand the need to register. 
But since it's free, he's just doing it to p1ss off people.)

Anyway, while doing that, I noticed that his form was listing 2.01j.

I didn't see it on his web page, but me being the person I am, I just 
grabbed the url for his 2.01i download and changed the name.

http://www.shlock.co.uk/Utils/OmniFlop201j.zip

It's probably a beta version, rather than an official release.  (It's 
probably supposed to be listed for the 'next pre-release' url on his web 
page.)

But since 2.01i didn't work for me, and I couldn't get his web page to 
generate a reg code for the 'custom format' ability, I had nothing to loose 
by downloading and trying it.  And at that point, I was really close to 
wiping my drive and installing Win98, just so I could use the OS9 transfer 
program.

Carey

>
> Thanks
>
> Bert
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: coco-bounces at maltedmedia.com [mailto:coco-bounces at maltedmedia.com]
> On Behalf Of Carey Eugene
> Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 9:45 PM
> To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts
> Subject: Re: [Coco] Help - CoCo emulator disk image formats...???
>
> Bob;
>
>
>
>> The latest version of Omniflop will read 3.5" double sided 80 track
> OS9
>> disks.
>
> Which one are you talking about?  v2.01i or v2.01j?
>
> The 2.01j isn't up on his website yet, although you can download it by
> changing the filename.
>
> The 2.01i can't read my 5.25" 40 track 360k dsdd OS9 disks, although it
> could do other CoCo 360k disks.  It thought they were some new weird
> format
> it had never seen before.
>
> v2.01j can read them.
>
> So maybe B&P have a slightly unusual format that 2.01i just doesn't
> like.
>
>
>
> I was taking a look at my os9 v2.06a program source and maaaaan that
> code is
> ugly...[grin]
>
> It looks like it's doing the 256 byte sector stuff in a way that XP's
> dos
> box doesn't like.  That's why it doesn't work.
>
> But I don't know if I can get it to work.  It depends on just how many
> int13's Microsoft has disabled or chose not to emulate.  People have
> been
> saying for years that XP's dos box (cmd.exe & command.com) are extremely
>
> broken, so it's probably the needed interupts are neutered.
>
> I'd have to hunt up my old Turbo C++ 3.0 too, to work on it.
>
> Carey
>
>
>
>> I know this, because I sent him a request to add that format, and he
>> replied straight away that he would. I downloaded the newer version,
> and
>> sure enough, it works.
>>
>> I'm using WinXP Pro SP2
>>
>> --
>> Regards, Bob Devries, Dalby, Queensland, Australia
>>
>> Isaiah 50:4 The sovereign Lord has given me
>> the capacity to be his spokesman,
>> so that I know how to help the weary.
>>
>> website: http://www.home.gil.com.au/~bdevasl
>> my blog: http://bdevries.invigorated.org/
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Carey Eugene" <carey at cebridge.net>
>> To: "CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts" <coco at maltedmedia.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, July 15, 2006 12:55 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Coco] Help - CoCo emulator disk image formats...???
>>
>>
>>> Bert & Peggy;
>>>
>>>> What PC operating system are you running?  I'm using Windows XP and
> for
>>>
>>> I'm using XP.
>>>
>>>> some reason, I can't copy data onto a 3.5" floppy in the CoCo
> format.  I
>>>
>>> I haven't tried copying data to an OS9 disk.  I've only been
> concerned
>>> about getting it off there.
>>>
>>> I don't know what kind of format the 3.5" coco disk has, but it's
>>> possible that your version of OmniFlop can't handle it.
>>>
>>> He just added double sided 360k coco disk format to his supported
> list,
>>> so it's possible that your version can't understand the format you
> are
>>> using.
>>>
>>> Have you had it analyze the formatted disk?  Just to make sure
> OmniFlop
>>> knows how to handle it?
>>>
>>>
>>>> can format the disk (of course I can format it on my CoCO) but I
> can't
>>>> copy data onto the floppy.  Someone said that Omniflop doesn't
> really
>>>> work well for CoCo formats under XP.
>>>
>>> It's certainly true that XP gets in the way.  (I can't even format a
>>> regular DOS 1.2m floppy under XP.  It just plain doesn't like 5.25"
>>> floppies.)
>>>
>>> I came darn close to wiping the drive on that spare computer and
>>> installing Win98 on it.
>>>
>>> I even looked into the possibility of doing a 'Live' Win98 cd.  You
> know,
>>> like the Live Linux cd's that you can boot and run directly off the
> cd.
>>> You can do that with WinXP using "BartPE", but for Win98, it's tied
> to
>>> the hardware of the system it's running on.  So I'd have to install
> Win98
>>> before I could make a Live cd.
>>>
>>>
>>> It's really a shame the old DOS copy program 'OS9' doesn't work in a
> DOS
>>> box under XP.
>>>
>>> I'm tempted to dig out the source code and see if there's anyway to
> get
>>> XP to cooperate.  I remember a friend used to be interested in
> reading
>>> old dos disks.  180k, 160k, and other odd formats.  He ended up with
> some
>>> way to do it, but he might have been using Win2k.
>>>
>>> Carey
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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