[Coco] SCSI drive and enclosure

farna at att.net farna at att.net
Sat Feb 25 11:45:55 EST 2006


Speaking of SCSI drives, I have a 20 or 30 GB drive and an enclosure w/power supply. Used a couple times on my PC for backing up data, but no longer need it. Should still be good. Will ship all with the cable in the US for $40. The enclosure is a half height external drive with the big SCSI connector, pass through connector, and a think the termination resistor is there too (clips on the pass through connector). If anyone's interested drop me an e-mail! I'll have to figure the shipping for Canada. 

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>    6. [Color Computer] [coco] The coco cassette (George Ramsower)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 16:46:01 -0500 (EST)
> From: sock at axess.com (John Kowalski)
> Subject: Re: [Coco] PICs and S-Video
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> Christopher R. Hawks wrote:
> >    Thats' what I thought 'til I found out that the output will ALLWAYS be
> >high when the input is low. So the output of timer 1 is not what you show,
> >but:
> >
> >timer 1
> --------__--------------------__--------------------__---------------
> 
> I added a quick-and-dirty HSYNC delay to my SVideo circuit using the 556
> timer and it seems to work okay.  (It's quick-and-dirty because right now
> it's just a 556 and a bunch of resistors and capacitors hanging off wires
> coming off the SVideo board.)
> 
> It was a bit fiddly to figure out all the values for the resistors and
> capacitors - I had to use an oscilloscope to get all the timing and trigger
> input levels right.  The two trigger inputs in particular need to be R/C
> filtered just right so that the 556 will only trigger on the lowest 'spike'
> and not the full duration of lows.
> 
> I figure I'll move the (mess of wires) circuit onto the RGB-to-SVideo board
> itself over the weekend and jot down a diagram of the wiring and components
> and email it to you.  (Parts are one LM556CN, 5 capacitors and 6 resistors -
> plus optional trimmers if you want to be able to adjust the delay time
> and/or pulse width.)
> 
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 14:55:22 -0700
> From: "Glen VanDenBiggelaar" <glenvdb at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Coco] PICs and S-Video
> To: coco at maltedmedia.com
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> Of course the Satellite TV "Testers" use these all the time to "test" Dish 
> network in the US and Bell Express vue In Canada. Before I moved into an 
> apartment, I was "testing" Bell for over 3 years using one. A $100 
> investment, and it saved thousands over the next 3 years.
> -Glen
> 
> 
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> >
> >
> >On 24-Feb-06, at 11:05 AM, Jim Cox wrote:
> >
> >>It's an 8-bit RISC processor from Atmel:
> >>http://www.atmel.com/products/AVR/
> >>Apparently an nice little puppy to work with.
> >
> >And especially handy if you have a Mac and manage to get the now end- 
> >of-lifed serial in-system programmer. One of the reasons why I use  it, 
> >that and gcc support.
> >
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 16:30:36 -0600
> From: "Chester A Patterson" <vchester at setec-cr.com>
> Subject: [Coco] Newbie has questions
> To: <coco at maltedmedia.com>
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> Having been out of touch for over 12 years...
> 
> Where can I find the history of the non-Tandy vendors? For example, Burke &
> Burke, CRC Disto and others? I know what happened to Howard Medical since I
> was the last Coco dude to work there.
> 
> I'm very much enjoying reading all the posts!
> 
> Chester Patterson
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 18:05:28 -0500
> From: Ward Griffiths <wdg3rd at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [Coco] Re: Radio Shack CEO Resigns
> To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts <coco at maltedmedia.com>
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> On 02/23/2006 09:51 pm, farna at att.net wrote:
> > UGH! I used a Scripsit catridge and tape as my first word processor. Had to
> > make at least three copies every time you saved something (save three
> > times) just to make sure one of the saves would work when you loaded next!
> > The third time I lost some work was when I decided I just HAD to have a
> > disk drive, no matter what the cost! I was in Okinawa at the time. Found a
> > CoCoist who had a spare drive on the AF base, and was willing to sell! I
> > had to mail order a controller, but I had that old Model 1 full height
> > single sided floppy and was happy to have it! ;>
> 
> I generally found cassette operations on the Color Computer to be quite 
> reliable, especially in comparison to the Model One I started with.  And 
> that's using the same CTR-41 included with the Mod One.  Which I didn't get 
> involved with until my USAF days were done in 1978.  Did spend a month at 
> Kadena in Mar/Apr 1977, came back with a hundred pounds or so of manga.
> -- 
> Ward Griffiths    wdg3rd at comcast.net
> 
> I think boys might benefit from owning a Barbie doll; every young man
> should understand what an expensive proposition it is to cohabitate with
> a narcissistic woman built like a stripper.  --  Tony Woodlief
> 
> 
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 17:33:12 -0600
> From: "George Ramsower" <yahoo at dvdplayersonly.com>
> Subject: [Color Computer] [coco] My first hard drive
> To: <ColorComputer at yahoogroups.com>
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> I'm reminded of when I got my first hard drive for my coco.
> 
> Jeesh, what a nightmare!
> 
>  Back around '94(I think), someone gave me an external hard disk cabinet 
> which included a broken MFM drive and a controller card with a SCSI 
> interface.
> 
> I had some difficulty getting my brain around this, as I didn't understand 
> this stuff at all.
> 
> Once I got a handle on the concept, I bought a Ken-Ton interface card and 
> tried to get the HD to work.
> 
>  Not.
> 
>  So I scanned the BBS systems and found a dude that had two five meggers for 
> just a hundred bucks.
>  I got ripped off. One didn't work at all. After opening it up, I discovered 
> both of the platters were gouged in the landing zone so badly, it looked as 
> if it was hit with a grinder.
>  The other drive would format, work for a while and then totally die. I 
> could reformat it and try again, but with the same results.
>  The next HD I bought didn't work... $20
> 
>  Then I found an outfit that refurbishes hard drives and had a warranty.  I 
> asked for and bought two 20 meg SCSI drives. I recieved two 30meg drives. I 
> called then and asked if this was a mistake and they told me they didn't 
> have any 20 meggers available at the time so they just sent the thirties.
>   I'm still using them. One is always in the computer. The other is waiting 
> for the next backup.
>  I alternate the drives so they get equal useage.
>  It keeps the bearings loose.
> 
>  A backup(diskcopy) takes only about fourteen hours on my coco3 512K. I 
> think now the drive/s have about fifteen megs of data.
>  I'm sure there's a better way to do a backup this sort of system, but I 
> know how to do it this way...
> 
>  I (stupidly) reformat the backup drive, then diskcopy all the current HD 
> onto it.
>  Then I move the freshly written HD into the coco box(repacked into a PC 
> case) and put the oldest copy into a secure place..
> 
>  I think I still have that SCSI><MFM controller card somewhere.
> 
> George
> 
>  
> 
> 
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> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 17:48:31 -0600
> From: "George Ramsower" <yahoo at dvdplayersonly.com>
> Subject: [Color Computer] [coco] The coco cassette
> To: <ColorComputer at yahoogroups.com>
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>  I dimly recall that the coco was famous for being the fastest and most 
> reliable.
> 
>  Once I got a CCR-81, I had very few problems, unless I had a bad tape.
> 
>  I tried several, cheaper tape machines and none worked properly until I 
> finally broke down and bought the CCR-81.
> 
>  I bet a PC sound card would be better than a cassette deck.
> 
> George 
> 
> 
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> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 18:57:12 -0500
> From: Ward Griffiths <wdg3rd at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [Coco] Re: OFF TOPIC! by golly..(spam)
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> On 02/24/2006 08:23 am, Alan Jones wrote:
> > I'll share with you guys my spam strategy. I use a web mail interface at
> > my ISP first for a while and teach the filter what I don't want.
> > My filter is very simple. Any spam I receive, the sender's domain name
> > gets added to my filter list. It works great! Secondly, I use my gmail
> > account for signing up for stuff if I have to register online. My policy
> > for my mail email account is:  "One strike and your out!" So far I
> > haven't  needed to create an exclusion list.
> 
> I just use Linux, and delete things with nonsense senders, recipient lists and 
> especially subjects.  Anything that I miss won't hurt me anyway, as I run 
> kmail from a user account that has no other function while I can get work 
> done on other virtual desktops.  My main spam dump that I use when I visit 
> newspaper sites and such is my AOL address (an appendage to La Esposa's 
> account) that I would never use for anything serious.  I check into that 
> every other week or so and make liberal use of the "Report as Spam" button.
> -- 
> Ward Griffiths    wdg3rd at comcast.net
> 
> I think boys might benefit from owning a Barbie doll; every young man
> should understand what an expensive proposition it is to cohabitate with
> a narcissistic woman built like a stripper.  --  Tony Woodlief
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 19:28:28 -0500
> From: Diego Barizo <diegoba at adinet.com.uy>
> Subject: Re: [Color Computer] [coco] The coco cassette
> To: ColorComputer at yahoogroups.com
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> The first tape I bought after getting my CoCo was a 90 min. one. They 
> are supposed to be less reliable than others, but after 22...23....24 
> years, it only got a couple of bad spots.
> Most of my friends had Sinclair Spectrum. A real pain to get a game to load!
> 
> Diego
> 
> 
> George Ramsower wrote:
> 
> > I dimly recall that the coco was famous for being the fastest and most 
> >reliable.
> >
> > Once I got a CCR-81, I had very few problems, unless I had a bad tape.
> >
> > I tried several, cheaper tape machines and none worked properly until I 
> >finally broke down and bought the CCR-81.
> >
> > I bet a PC sound card would be better than a cassette deck.
> >
> >George 
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> 
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> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2006 19:54:55 -0500
> From: Gene Heskett <gene.heskett at verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: [Color Computer] [coco] The coco cassette
> To: ColorComputer at yahoogroups.com
> Message-ID: <200602241954.55548.gene.heskett at verizon.net>
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> 
> On Friday 24 February 2006 19:28, Diego Barizo wrote:
> >The first tape I bought after getting my CoCo was a 90 min. one. They
> >are supposed to be less reliable than others, but after 22...23....24
> >years, it only got a couple of bad spots.
> >Most of my friends had Sinclair Spectrum. A real pain to get a game to
> > load!
> >
> I had nothing but bad luck with the CTR-81/82.  And being an electronics 
> type, I came to the conclusion that 99% of the trouble was the DC bias 
> used in nearly all those things sold as computer tape recorders by 
> anybody.
> 
> Long after I had a hard drive, someone needed a tape copy of something I 
> had, so I scrambled around and finally got it to load, taking prolly 10 
> times to get a good, it would run load.  I also tried loading it from 
> my hifi deck, same story, the signal was so buried in the noise of the 
> DC bias that even my ears couldn't convince themselves it was actually 
> digital data.
> 
> So when I went to make the copy, I unplugged the computer tape and 
> plugged the cables into just one channel of a metal tape capable sony 
> deck I'd bought (and which I still have, and its STILL a POS in terms 
> of audio quality due to induced hum from its power supply in the 
> playback, missing its published specs by at least 15 db) loaded a 
> freshly wiped with a hand eraser tape, and recorded it on just one 
> track, making several copies since it was a 30 minute tape.
> 
> Then I hooked up the so-called computer tape again, plugged that tape 
> into it, and it would load perfectly everytime unless I turned the 
> playback level so low I couldn't hear it.  I mailed it off to whomever 
> it was asked for it, along with the admonishion that it was made on my 
> hifi deck on only 1 track of the 4 available.  It loaded perfectly for 
> him too.
> 
> The moral of this is simply that the shack, nor anyone else, could ever 
> convince the bean counters to spend another 10 bucks (at retail after 
> markup) to put a 100khz power oscillator and a real erase head into one 
> of those things.  I think the actual r-p head may have been useable
> as is.  This would have reduced the background shot noise by at least 30 
> db.  Or to have put a motor control circuit into a better one, either 
> would have worked a treat and would have had a lip lock on that data 
> market once word spread that hey, here is one that WORKS!.
> 
> > Diego 
> >
> >George Ramsower wrote:
> >> I dimly recall that the coco was famous for being the fastest and
> >> most reliable.
> >>
> >> Once I got a CCR-81, I had very few problems, unless I had a bad
> >> tape.
> >>
> >> I tried several, cheaper tape machines and none worked properly
> >> until I finally broke down and bought the CCR-81.
> >>
> >> I bet a PC sound card would be better than a cassette deck.
> >>
> >>George
> >
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> >
> >
> 
> -- 
> Cheers, Gene
> People having trouble with vz bouncing email to me should add the word
> 'online' between the 'verizon', and the dot which bypasses vz's
> stupid bounce rules.  I do use spamassassin too. :-)
> Yahoo.com and AOL/TW attorneys please note, additions to the above
> message by Gene Heskett are:
> Copyright 2006 by Maurice Eugene Heskett, all rights reserved.
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