[Coco] Re: CoCo needs?
Jim Cox
jimcox at miba51.com
Tue Mar 8 12:36:03 EST 2005
Mark:
I don't think I phrased my suggestion correctly and you
took it the wrong way. It wasn't meant to be a personal
attack.
-Jim
On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 03:56:57 -0600
Mark Marlette <mark at cloud9tech.com> wrote:
> At 11:07 PM 3/7/2005, you wrote:
>
> Jim,
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> I work 8-10hrs a day at my day time job, with a 1 1/2hr
>minimum commute round trip each day. I still spend ~4
>hours a day with the CoCo. I don't sleep much. :) CoCo is
>a wonderful platform to learn. Each person has their own
>priorities.
>
> LS-120 is a 3.5" device. Even the PC is dropping 5.25"
>support. I would keep the 5.25" the same and add newer
>technology to move forward.
>
> I know what you are saying it would be nice to have it
>all and reasonable. Reasonable is a relative term. You
>mentioned $75, for billg that was three times over his
>budget and that was to his doorstep including shipping.
>If money is what limits your hobbies, you only have so
>much to spend. Then you must live within your means. I
>suggested to him that maybe he should consider a cassette
>interface. I have those new in the box for $15. Heck it
>worked well for years, still does. Nope, I'm quitting. I
>say that the people that have offered up a drive
>controller and cable for him, great. I also feel that he
>needs to return something to the community for the
>charity system to work. Maybe I'm stuck in the big
>picture/long term mode....
>
> Regards,
>
> Mark
> Cloud-9
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>>Mark:
>>
>>Thanks for the info. on the LS-120, I sort of remember
>>you saying something about it a while back, but I have
>>only been glossing over messages due to my work schedule.
>>
>>Correct me if I am wrong, but the LS 120 is only
>>compatable with 3.5" drives and not the older 360K 5.25"
>>drives. If I am missing something here, could you please
>>clarify?
>>
>> From what I understand about the DriveWire (have not
>>read the docs all
>> the way through yet -> work!) it requires that the CoCo
>>have a drive
>> controller in the cartrage slot. Since controllers are
>>hard to get, this
>> makes the use of the Drive Wire impractical for those
>>with out
>> controllers. What is it exactly that the Drive Wire
>>requires from the
>> controller, and is it possible this could be replaced by
>>something else
>> that could cost less?
>>
>>Couldn't the controller be replaced by a cartrage with
>>just the boot PROM so the CoCo could access the server
>>(PC) Since HDOS is compatable with most of the non
>>OS-9/NitrOS stuff out there, that should be the primary
>>PROM on the cartrage.
>>
>>I'm trying to think of low cost solutions to allow people
>>to use the DriveWire so as to use it's 3.5" and 5.25"
>>drives as well as HDD with the CoCo. To be honest, if we
>>lose too many people because stuff like the controllers
>>are becoming rare, this community as a whole shoots it's
>>self in the foot.
>>
>>A cheap DriveWire/Cartrage solution for around $75.00
>>might not be profitable in the short run, but when you
>>consider more and more people may be using them and they
>>in turn may create software to use other products, then
>>in the long run, it may be very profitable.
>>
>>You're looking for developers, this is one way to bring
>>more into the fold. I wish I had the technical skills
>>needed to help out more, but I barely have time to power
>>my CoCo up once in a while, let alone learn something
>>outside of work.
>>
>>Just my $0.25 :)
>>
>>-Jim
>>
>>On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 20:33:14 -0600
>> Mark Marlette <mark at cloud9tech.com> wrote:
>>>At 01:21 PM 3/7/2005, you wrote:
>>>Torsten and Jim,
>>>GREAT ideas, keep them coming.
>>>I know I have said this before.. WE ALL READY HAVE IT!
>>>Yes, it is in the SuperIDE, it is called a LS-120 drive.
>>>They are cheap on Ebay. I buy mine in Mpls for $19 and
>>>that includes one disk! The drive is an ATAPI device.
>>>Now the problem. It needs software written for it.
>>>Boisy's driver works. As I posted last week, we need
>>>utilities for file transfers.
>>>Not one person stepped up. Boisy or I could do this and I
>>>just might after the SB. We both are VERY busy on CoCo
>>>projects.
>>>Just did inventory for tax purposes...Running over $10k
>>>in CoCo inventory and parts....Company grew again last
>>>year.
>>>
>>>In the past we use to say we didn't have the
>>>hardware....Now with HDB-DOS, NitrOS-9 and our hardware,
>>>we need utilities and/or nice apps to be written. The
>>>tools are great today.
>>>Regards,
>>>Mark
>>>
>>>
>>>> > This is just my $0.02 but Bill G's email prompted me
>>>>to
>>>> > write this. What CoCo users need most right now is an
>>>> > affordable disk controller that will work with current
>>>> > 3.5" drives.
>>>>
>>>>I agree. Should be compatible to Tandy's "standard" Disk
>>>>Extended BASIC,
>>>>maybe with an option for other DOS. Should be buffered
>>>>and "Halt-Free"
>>>>on demand. I'd like to see this integrated in the Super
>>>>IDE
>>>>controller...
>>>>
>>>>Torsten
>>>>
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