[Coco] Rainbow on Disc

[James C. Hrubik, Sr.]

All I can say, is ... WOW!  That's the most positive stuff we've (as a  
community) gotten from Lonnie, and it seems pretty fair to me.  I'll  
have to catalogue my collection -- i think I have most of them.  There  
are undoubtedly going to be the production costs, like disemboweling  
the mag, then the scanning in full color, and the time involved.

I have been playing with this for one of our church publications, doing  
the scans at 300dpi, and that produces a pretty nice .pdf copy, but  
still a large .pdf ( try http://spot.acorn.net/aacc/NL200503.pdf;  that  
was reduced in resolution to 150dpi prior to .pdf-ing, to save space on  
the server).  I just scanned the cover of the December 1989 Rainbow at  
300; the .tif was 22.5MB and the .pdf of the page (using Acrobat) at  
that resolution was 564KB.  The December 1989 issue had 132 pages, 65  
of which had _some_ color.  Since not all the pages of Rainbow have  
color photos, the majority can be scanned B&W.  However, the tricky  
ones will be those that have color "wallpaper" under the print, and  
that will require full-color scans of those pages to meet Lonnie's  
terms.  If anyone wants that December 1989 cover, let me know by  
private email.

DVDs are really the only way to go, unless you do sets of CDs, say one  
per year.  (Some of the bigger issues may require two CDs per year,  
since 500K * 150 pgs * 12months = 900 megs -- that's a 24 CD set).  You  
might even have to do sets of DVDs, since some of the issues are over  
200 pages.  The later issues (newspaper format) will probably have too  
be scanned on a flatbed, sideways, with the halves stitched together in  
Photoshop or whatever you use.

I don't see much sense in OCR-ing the project, or even going above 300  
dpi for quality.  It's doubtful anyone would want to print these things  
out on a color printer, either now or later.

On Jun 8, 2005, at 11:12 AM, Michael Wayne Harwood wrote:

> Here is the latest communication thread regarding what I would like to
> unofficially dub "Rainbow on Disc".  I think that Lonnie's terms are
> extremely fair.  At $.25 per issue the entire Rainbow archive of 144
> issues could be had for $36 plus shipping and media costs.  Are there  
> any
> thoughts regarding the costs or what Lonnie has proposed?
>
> I think we should start a discussion regarding the actual work and the
> practical details involved.  Boisy has some good questions regarding
> standards and consistency.
>
> Regards,
> Michael Harwood
>
> ---------------------------- Original Message  
> ----------------------------
> Subject: RE: Rainbow magazines
> From:    "Michael Wayne Harwood" <michael at musicheadproductions.org>  
> Date:
>   Wed, June 8, 2005 9:00 am
> To:      mayor at prospectky.com
> Cc:      dave at cococentral.org
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- 
> ---
>
> Lonnie,
>
> Thank you very much for your quick responses and willingness to work  
> with
> us to make this happen!  What you have outlined sounds fair to me, and  
> I
> will forward this to the Coco mailing list to make them aware of your
> proposal.  If you don't mind I would like to draft an initial letter  
> and
> send it to you via email so that we can make sure that everything is in
> order before I send it via snail mail.
>
> I am thinking of calling this project "Rainbow on Disc" and would like
> your feedback regarding this choice of names as well as your thoughts
> regarding the use of the Rainbow graphics, logos, etc for any printing,
> websites, or other similar usage.
>
> Regards,
> Michael Harwood
>
> ---------------------------- Original Message  
> ----------------------------
> Subject: RE: [Fwd: RE: Rainbow magazines]
> From:    "Lonnie Falk - Mayor" <mayor at prospectky.com>
> Date:    Wed, June 8, 2005 8:01 am
> To:      michael at musicheadproductions.org
> Cc:      dave at cococentral.org
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- 
> ---
>
> Michael:
>
> I am not really interested in making money, but in protecting  
> copyright. I
> would think 25 cents per issue of the magazine would be sufficient. I  
> just
> got off the phone with my legal eagle, who says the amount has to be  
> more
> than a "token" and he feels 25 cents or more per issue would be  
> sufficient
> to accomplish that.
>
> We would also want:
>
> 1. One copy of each CD (or whatever) you produce. I assume you are not
> planning on burning custom copies. That would certainly drive you  
> crazy.
> If you are planning on doing that, we'll have to re-think archival  
> copies
> on this end.
>
> 2. That if being offered as issues, the issue must be done completely,  
> ads
> and all. That is, an image of the issue.
>
> 3. That whatever "printing" appears on the disk label, packaging and
> advertising, the phrase "Content copyright (c) by Rainbow Magazine and
> Falsoft Inc., 1980-2005, all rights reserved. Offered under license to
> (whatever or whoever). May not be reproduced in whole or in part."
>
> 4. An "accounting" of copies sold and appropriate funds to cover the
> license on a quarterly basis, say January, April, July and October, in  
> the
> form of a check so there would be a paper trail for me.
>
> You could send me a letter to 5803 Timber Ridge Dr., Prospect, KY 40059
> outlining these conditions and signed. I would respond with a letter
> approving. I'd suggest you draft up the letter and email it to be sure  
> we
> don't get into sending letters back and forth if there is any  
> discussion
> about language.
>
> As to quality, I think that would be up to you. My experience is if you
> put out a crummy product, then you are not going to sell any. Or, at
> least, not many.
>
> My only suggestion is that, as you may or may not be aware, HP has come
> out with a new DVD-CD burning technology called LightScribe that  
> "burns"
> an image on the "label side" of a disk right in the drive. You just  
> flip
> the DVD or CD over. It is a little slow, is all in greyscale, but they  
> say
> they will have a speedup out in the next month or two. I've gotten rid  
> of
> all my "Stompers" and the like in favor of it. The greyscale looks  
> rather
> elegant, I think.
>
> Lastly, I think it would be counterproductive to have both you and Dave
> doing the same thing. You were first to suggest this, so you get first
> chance to say yea or nay. Let me know what you think.
>
> Best
> Lonnie
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Wayne Harwood [mailto:michael at musicheadproductions.org]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 8:21 AM
> To: mayor at prospectky.com
> Cc: dave at cococentral.org
> Subject: [Fwd: RE: Rainbow magazines]
>
> Lonnie,
>
> Thank you for your quick reply.  I would like to discuss the costs of
> licensing electronic reproductions with you.   What exactly do you  
> have in
> mind in regards to both the cost and other practical issues such as
> quality control??
>
> Regards,
> Michael Harwood
>
>
>
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