[Coco] Re: Thoughts about going back to school full time.

[jdaggett at gate.net]

Richard

You did reply to the right person.

I can further add that here in Florida there is a movement to have 
even Community College professors having Masters Degrees. 
Teaching K-12 is still a BS/BA degree.  You can't teach at university 
level with less than a masters and at least working on your PHD. 
Thanks to "No Child Left Behind" program to teach math in K-12, 
they would prefer the instructor to have a degree in Mathematics. 
Even though a BSEE has all the math requirements now to teach 
Mathematics. 

The problem with older workers, over age 50, is that the cost of 
benefits are very high. Insurance, life and health, plus pension 
contributions can easily add up to 10 to 20K per year above any 
salary. One major problem that GM faces as with some major 
corparations in the US is that they already have under funded 
pension funds now. The big Baby Boomer retiree period will be 
between about 2009 and 2018. 

oh well i need to get off my soapbox.

james 

On 7 Dec 2005 at 22:22, Richard E. Crislip wrote:

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> Hello Jim
> 
> I know I'm jumping in here, but I have elected to return to school to
> get my bachelor degree at 58yrs because when I graduate, I want to be
> able to teach in the two year colleges that are springing up every
> where. I was doing that until the accreditation team came through.
> They pointed out that in Ohio, the teacher had to have  bachelors
> degree to teach the MS-Office suite because they are deemed as being
> business courses. My 37 years experience and associate degree in
> programming didn't mean a thing 8-/. So if you think you may want to
> teach, then by all means get the degree. If you plan to switch jobs, I
> agree with James, unless you have a sure thing. I hope I'm replying to
> the correct person 8-}.
> 
> On 12/05/2005, Jim Cox wrote:
> > James:
> >
> > First off thanks for the reply, you made some really good 
> > points.  Secondly, I think I have asked a similar question 
> > a while back.  Oh well, I guess I'm showing my age.
> >
> > I thought that the BSET may be a way to move into an 
> > engineering tech position.  Maybe that's not the way to go 
> > then.  For reason's I won't go into, I am looking at 
> > changing jobs, so your comment about getting the BSET not 
> > being a good decission is making me think about some other 
> > options.
> >
> > One option is to take advantage of the resources I have 
> > (CoCo, 6809 trainer, Ethernut, etc...) and use those to 
> > refresh and improve my skill set.  It's cheaper, and more 
> > fun.  Some things like math and C I can also do on my own.
> >
> > Thanks again for the input.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > On Sun, 04 Dec 2005 23:02:29 -0500
> >   jdaggett at gate.net wrote:
> >> Jim
> >> 
> >> In the current climate I would state this based on 
> >>personal 
> >> experience. IF one is over 50 yrs of age and 
> >>contemplating a BSEE 
> >> or even a BSET to move and gain advancement with another 
> >> company is not a good decission. If you are doing it to 
> >>advance 
> >> within the company you are working at then by all means 
> >>go for it. 
> >> 
> >> Right now if there are two engineers equally matched in 
> >>skills, one 
> >> over 50yrs old and the other say 35 yrs old, the younger 
> >>enginner 
> >> will win out. Simply because of cost of benefits.  To 
> >>gain 
> >> advancement with in the company you work for is okay. To 
> >>gain the 
> >> education to move on to another company and if you ar 
> >>older than 
> >> 50yrs old  will be a mistake. 
> >> 
> >> There is not supposed to be age descrimination in 
> >>hiring, but in a 
> >> quiet way there is. Proving it is far more difficult 
> >>than it is worth the 
> >> time and effort. 
> >> 
> >> In some circles the BSET is  not as prefered as the BSEE 
> >>is. 
> >> Reasoning is the BSET has less math requirements. A BSEE 
> >>will 
> >> have 23 semester hours of mathematics in a 128 hour 
> >>degree 
> >> program. There are two courses that are not part of the 
> >>BSET that 
> >> are apart of the  BSEE program. These are:
> >> 
> >> 1) Analysis of Linear Systems
> >> 2) ElectroMagnetic Fields and Waves. 
> >> 
> >> Linear Systems is the main course that separates techs 
> >>from 
> >> enegineers. Heavy in theory and in math. Fields in Waves 
> >>is to 
> >> some a brutal course as it requires visualization of 
> >>three 
> >> deminsional concepts and mathematics. I just loved those 
> >>triple 
> >> spherical integrals and gradients. Not to leave out 
> >>Maxwell's 
> >> Equations either.
> >> 
> >> just my opinion
> >> 
> >> james
> >> 
> >
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