[Coco] Re: Build a list of ISP's that carry UseNet Bit.Listserv.CoCo
John E. Malmberg
wb8tyw at qsl.net
Sat Feb 7 17:55:48 EST 2004
Stephen H. Fischer wrote:
> Hi,
>
> In any event, if UseNet *"Bit.Listserv.CoCo"* NewsGroup is to be shut down,
> messages would have to be sent to each ISP or placed where they all read
> messages. It might be possible that ISP's can ignore the request to shut
> down, and or place messages in a public place that all can read and comment.
The process is automatic. If the owner of the bit.listserv news
hierarchy sends out the delete group command, it will be gone in a short
order. I would be surprised if you could convince any other news server
operator to ignore or interfere.
> There is a method to add a newsgroups, is there a method other than
> individual ISP's noting no traffic or all SPAM to close a newsgroups.
The bit.listserv hierarchy is controlled by one ISP, if they drop a sub
group, it will be gone everywhere as soon as the peers notice.
That same ISP is the only one that can create a bit.listserv newsgroup.
The fate of that bit.listserv.coco newsgroup is totally in their hands,
and right now it is linked to the Princeton mailing list.
See http://newsadmin.com/bit/bit.htm
and http://listserv.buffalo.edu/owner/gateway.html
I posted that information earlier as general information about Bitnet
mailing lists and their newsgroup mirrors.
> It is very late, but I would like to build a list of places that UseNet
> *"Bit.Listserv.CoCo"* NewsGroup can be read.
>
> Please add yours and reply to this and later messages. I will try and check
> all the places that our Wonderful CoCo has members and merge the lists.
Right now, everything is on auto-pilot, with a self destruct button
armed with the safety off, and it apparently has been that way for
several years now, even with out the spam issue.
Newsadmin.com can not and should not make any changes to the mailing
list gateway or newsgroup with out instructions from the now
non-existent mailing list owner at Princeton.
Should the mailing list at Princeton be shutdown, it may be possible to
convince newsadmin.com to leave the newsgroup up, and possibly gate it
to a new mailing list. That will involve requesting an exception to the
standard practices for the bit.listserv.* newsgroups.
They may decide on their own to leave it, or they may remove it.
If another BITNET member agrees to sponsor the COCO list then it looks
like there should be an orderly transition.
Any other transition will go through an exception process.
-John
wb8tyw at qsl.network
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