[Coco] Thanks for the Princeton Bit.Listserv.CoCo Mail List. DRAFT

[jimcox at miba51.com]

On Sun, 1 Feb 2004 13:19:06 -0800
  "Stephen H. Fischer" <SFischer1 at MindSpring.com> wrote:
>Hi,
>
>jimcox at miba51.com wrote:
>> Why are you so eager to kill the Princeton list?
>
>The list already has been killed. The vote was taken by 
>the move of the list.

While I do remember moving to this list, due to a single 
person taking it upon themselves to infect the Princeton 
list with spam so as to force the move, I didn't consider 
it a vote to kill the list.  It was a personal choice made 
by me to take advantage of Dennis' hospitality and 
actually focus more on the CoCo than constant ranting 
about spam.

Now I would like to quote a comment that Gene made 
earlier:

"FWIW, I contacted the Princeton folks, oh, maybe in 98 or 
possibly even earlier, memory is hazy, and that message 
doesn't exist on this machine although it might be on my 
firewall yet, or it may even be so old its on my now 
defunct amiga. At that time I was told by some probably 
flunky admin that it was best not to disturb the service 
as the very act of raising a hand to request a change 
might get TPTB to
decide it was no longer worth the hassle and shut it down 
just to get some peace and quiet. Based on that message, I 
recommended to the group that we simply lay low and put up 
with the crap. If they are now claiming that they could 
have fixed it, we must be talking to two different 
administration people, not impossible considering the 
elapsed time of nearly 6 years."

1) Others who chose to stay with the Princeton list might 
not appreciate it being closed down without any say in the 
matter.  I may be wrong, but I do remember someone saying 
that Carl Boll is still on the Princeton list.  What about 
him and others who still use the list.

2) Once they are made aware of an issue with spam on the 
CoCo list, TPTB may decide to shut down not just the CoCo 
list, but other lists too.  I don't think those people 
will be to happy about that.

3) As Gene also pointed out, this current list is made 
available to us all by Dennis graciously giving up some of 
his time to manage it.  Where would we move from here?  We 
may need to fall back to the Princeton list some day.

Yes for most of us, the Princeton list is no longer a 
viable option, but for some it still is and IMHO we do not 
have the right to step on their toes.  My advice is, if 
you have moved to this list, why care about the Princeton 
list.  Yes it would be nice to thank the people at 
Princeton, but why run the risk of ruining the Princeton 
list any more for those who have chosen to stay.  All this 
really does is remove a resource for some people and 
fragment the already fragmented CoCo community even more. 
 

Jim