[Coco] [Color Computer] Complete Commodore 64 homecomputer on a single chip
Dave Gacke
dgacke at ektarion.com
Wed Dec 22 15:24:20 EST 2004
>From a new article I read, I don't think she got the money. She was paid as
a contractor to build it for another company.
She probably got a good contractor rate, but it didn't say whether or not
she got any of the profits. But again, since she was a contractor, I doubt
it.
Dave
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From: coco-bounces at maltedmedia.com [mailto:coco-bounces at maltedmedia.com] On
Behalf Of Jim Cox
Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 2:15 PM
To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts
Subject: Re: [Coco] [Color Computer] Complete Commodore 64 homecomputer on a
single chip
Well, now that she has the money from all the sales of the
C64, maybe someone should write her and see if she's
interested in the CC-3?
Jim
(Yes I am being whimsical)
On Wed, 22 Dec 2004 15:09:02 -0500
jdaggett at gate.net wrote:
> Mark
>
> Yepper your math is correct. The problem is a small time
>individual
> needs capital to get started. If you are going to do a
>brand new IC
> from scrath and develop a product around that, you are
> going to
> need between a half a million to one million dollars to
>just be able to
> manufacture and sell those first 70,000 units.
>
> james
>
>
> On 22 Dec 2004 at 13:42, mark at cloud9tech.com wrote:
>
>From: mark at cloud9tech.com
> To: coco at maltedmedia.com
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> Subject: Re: [Coco] [Color Computer] Complete
> Commodore 64 home computer on a
> single chip
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>> James,
>>
>> As all of these numbers are impressive, it is really
>>small potatoes.
>> Take the numbers from the article. $30 a unit times
>>70,000 units sold
>> on the first day, $2.1 million, first day!. Depending
>>upon what type
>> of contract she entered.. This could of course greatly
>>alter her net
>> pay. No if, ands, or butts about this though. She had at
>>least one of
>> these that she demoed to the investors and sold them on
>>it. Did she
>> have that much invested? I bet not.
>>
>> Aaaaaahhhhhh this what makes America great!
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> >Boisy
>> >
>> >With say about $250,000, one can put a complete Coco 3
>>hardware in
>> >one
>> ASIC.
>> >That wil get the design done and the first 40 ICs at a
>>cost of about
>> >$5000
>> per chip.
>> >
>> >That will get you 40 parts in 0.18 micron mixed mode
>>1.8V to 3.3V
>> >CMOS. Production runs are far cheaper and could bring
>>the die cost
>> >down into the
>> $10 to
>> >$15 range. Packaging adds about $0.05 per pin.
>> >
>> >A cheaper initial cost and low volume way is to do the
>>ASIC in FPGA
>> >and
>> then you
>> >are looking at about $600 to $1000 per chip. The only
>>thing that
>> >would not
>> go into
>> >the FPGA would be the 2 MB of RAM.
>> >
>> >
>> >Actual production runs would yield die costs more in
>>the $10 to $25
>> range. The you
>> >can bond the die directly to a PCB and have a Coco 3
>>on a PCB about
>> >1.5
>> inch
>> >square board.
>> >
>> >james
>> >
>> >On 22 Dec 2004 at 9:48, Boisy G. Pitre wrote:
>> >
>> >From: "Boisy G. Pitre"
>><boisy at boisypitre.com>
>> >Subject: Re: [Coco] [Color Computer] Complete
>>Commodore 64
>> >home computer on a single chip Date sent: Wed,
>>22 Dec 2004
>> >09:48:48 -0600 To:
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>> >>
>> >> On Dec 22, 2004, at 1:23 AM, Neil Morrison wrote:
>> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > FYI
>> >> >
>> >> > "Jeri Ellsworth has squeezed the entire circuitry
>>of a
>> >> > two-decade-old Commodore 64 home computer onto a
>>single chip,
>> >> > which she has tucked neatly into a joystick that
>>connects by a
>> >> > cable to a TV set. Called the Commodore 64--the
>>same as the
>> >> > computer system--her device can run 30 video games,
>>mostly
>> >> > sports, racing and puzzles games from the early
>>1980s, all
>> >> > without the hassle of changing game cartridges.
>> >>
>> >> This is certainly becoming a trend, isn't it. I've
>>noticed lately
>> >> that there is a groundswell of interest in
>>retro-computing and the
>> >> mainstream press is starting to pick up on this
>>phenomenon. It's
>> >> no surprise that the Commodore 64 is the main
>>beneficiary of this
>> >> attention, since it has the most name recognition and
>>appears to be
>> >> the main computer that everyone thinks of when
>>focusing on the 80s
>> >> home computer age. I suspect that in the not too
>>distant future,
>> >> other classic home computers like ours will be
>>garnering some
>> >> national media attention as well.
>> >>
>> >> Actually, her idea of putting a Commodore 64 inside
>>of a joystick
>> >> isn't too far-fetched for a CoCo. Though I wonder
>>what sales would
>> >> be like of such a device, and if Radio Shack would
>>consider doing
>> >> something like that.
>> >>
>> >> Boisy
>> >>
>> >>
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