[Coco] Re: coco 3 on monitor Tandy MC-5

[Richard E. Crislip]

Hello Boisy

Thats a very good explanation of return on investment, market share, etc. We
in the extremely deminished Amiga market experience the exact same thing
and the exact same complaints. Unfortunatly, regardless of how well you
explain or argure the point, you will not satisfy everyone, I am not
detracting from the one who began this with the remark about spending
$40.00 for a monitor cable. I'm sure this person can see the value of what
you are saying.

On 12/15/03, Boisy Pitre wrote:
> Pierre/Animal Tamer,
> 
> I won't attempt to speak for Mark Marlette, but given my relationship 
> with Mark and Cloud-9, I feel that I can add a few comments about 
> Cloud-9's pricing.
> 
> Like any for-profit business, Cloud-9 bases its pricing on these 
> factors:
>  1. material costs
>  2. time costs
>  3. a fair profit
> 
> The particular product in question is the video cable set.  Mark would 
> have to speak up about this, but I suspect a considerable amount of the 
> cost is the time put into making the item.  The cable is part of a 
> modular system of cabling that Mark came up with to solve a particular 
> problem on the CoCo 3: the lack of an "industry standard" monitor 
> connector.  In essence, you are paying $40 for two cables, not one.  
> Two cables equals more parts and more time.
> 
> Given that Mark has a full time job (like myself) and has a life 
> outside of the CoCo (as well as I), he has a certain fixed amount of 
> time for Cloud-9, and that time has to be divided among product 
> development, order fulfillment, etc.  We both enjoy doing the work that 
> Cloud-9 affords us to do, but if we were to pay ourselves for the time 
> we put into it, we would definitely be making less than minimum wage.  
> So #2, time costs, isn't really reflected in the price of our products.
> 
> At first glance, $40 for two video cables may seem high, but when you 
> think of the CoCo market as a niche market which doesn't deliver the 
> volume to justify the pricing structure that we are used to getting at 
> Wal-Mart and other places, you can begin understand why the prices are 
> set the way that they are.  We don't have a factory, an assembly plant 
> or cheap labor.  We are doing this ourselves meticulously, carefully 
> and with an eye toward quality.
> 
> As for quality, that is one thing that I firmly believe makes Cloud-9 
> stand out.  From our website to our hardware and software, Cloud-9 has 
> consistently placed a premium on quality, and will continue to do so.  
> We may not have discount prices, but our products speak for themselves.
> 
> Lastly, I say this without any intended or implied sarcasm: if you 
> still feel that Cloud-9's prices aren't justified, you always have the 
> option of buying the materials and making the products yourself.
> 
> Boisy Pitre
> 
> 
> 
> On Dec 15, 2003, at 2:44 PM, Pierre Fortin wrote:
> 
>> Me also I find that ridiculous...
>>  
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: James the Animal Tamer
>> To: ColorComputer at yahoogroups.com
>> Sent:Monday, December 15, 2003 1:11 PM
>> Subject:Re: [Color Computer] coco 3 on monitor Tandy MC-5
>> 
>> Holy granola, they want $40 for connecting the CoCo III to a
>> Commodore 1084 monitor?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> You can also purchase a cable from Cloud-9:
>>> <http://www.cloud9tech.com/Hardware/Video%20Cables.html>
>>> 
>> 
>> 
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Cruisen                                                         _|_
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                                             Richard